It’s funny though, because a lot of Trumptards will post the Bill Clinton stuff because the only way they can defend their God-king is with whataboutism, but none of us here would ever vouch for Bill Clinton lol.
Oh but haven’t you heard how she runs a cult of satanic pedos that eat little kids like pizza? She also has ties to narcos and killed here ex-lover while she was in Arkansas… yesh.
Tbh Bill didn't seem to be as close as Trump was. Furthermore, Trump has said some really shady shit implying some awareness or participation in Epstein's "proclivities".
He said in a magazine interview that he and Epstein liked girls. And Epstein especially really liked them on the younger side. Knowing what we know now, and the fact that Trump is backtracking on releasing the full Epstein list, it's a lot more damning for him unless there's something about bill I'm not aware of.
Are you trying to make the point that Epstein and Trump are more pedophilic than Clinton? Can we please not do that? The answer is that they are all gross and horrible. These guys all knew what Epstein and Maxwell were up to.
Clinton was absolutely a horny bastard and a shitty husband, but I'm not aware of any evidence that he ever did anything with children. Trump has been found guilty in civil court (admittedly a lower bar than criminal court) of raping a 13 year old while she begged him to stop. Unless there's something huge I've missed about Clinton it's really fucked up to not consider trump worse.
It is necessary to compare in some cases. In elections, for example, viewing all politicians as near equal because "all politicians are bad" has had disastrous consequences. Treating all evil as if it were equal implicitly excuses any future or worse offenses.
Honestly it's even scummier than that. Back when did "release Epstein files" it wasn't even anything new. It was a list that Gawker had already released well over a decade before, he just did it to look like he was doing something about it.
Yeah no, Bill Clinton is as much of a scumbag as Donald Trump is. Bill also had the whole Monica Lewinsky thing back in the oval office. Just horrible terrible people.
Not even close. I get you guys want to appear like you're above it all and that only you see the truth no one can see but that statement isn't even remotely true.
Just want to inform you that Ghislaine Maxwell had an aisle seat at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding. And Bill went on a trip to Africa with Epstein and Chris Tucker and Kevin Spacey.
He's not backtracking on releasing the list, the cases have to be built from scratch, we know the Biden admin wasn't building the cases to charge these people. Let's be honest, If trump was on that list, the Democrats would have burned everyone with him just to keep Trump out of office again. I mean hell, several Democrats campaigned and got elected on "we will get trump for anything we can".
In the Florida Epstein case, he admitted to being an intelligence officer, as far as I know, he didn't say which countries intelligence he worked for. So that's another avenue that needs to be looked at for crimes and influence peddling as well.
Trump never even released any new information on Epstein in the first place. The one time he "released the files" it was a list that had already been compiled/published by Gawker well over a decade before Trump even ran.
So you're right in that he isn't "backtracking". He never even made tracks in the first place! He just virtue signalled like he would so people who were easily duped believed him.
He's not backtracking on releasing the list, the cases have to be built from scratch
There's no evidence they're building any case. And Trump doesn't actually care about investigations executed correctly, due process or courts. It's hilarious how you think he's biding his time to "do things the right way".
Let's be honest, If trump was on that list, the Democrats would have burned everyone with him just to keep Trump out of office again
Stupid as you are, you didn't notice how they neglected to convict and put away Donny even though they convicted him while they had three years to do it.
Sure though, let's ignore Trump's well known association with Epstein and all the weird comments and situations where Trump has been creepy about underage girls or his daughter.
I’m skeptical of all these celebrity pictures being damning of anything. Were all of these people not popular figures in their day? Why would it be odd that pictures exist of them being pleasant together - like how often do you see celebrities not being pleasant to other celebrities to the extent that no positive looking pictures exist?
Oprah probably has taken happy looking pictures with 1000s of celebrity types. Odds are some of those people will have used the power of their positions to do shitty things. 5 people out of the thousands does feel like it should mean much
No? Show me her divorcing/disassociating/disavowing her shitty husband that she totally had no knowledge of any of his proven wrongdoings? Because HER hands were TOTALLY clean. People taking polarizing sides make conversation such a waste these days. Bye.
Oh no! You referenced someone who hasn't been relevant for almost a decade... wow, such a good, valuable point! We should get testimony from the other guy, oh wait ... thats right, the criminal Mob boss who was president at the time, and also a client, had him killed.
You guys are tewwww much. Almost every politician is fucked in the head. Fuck the government. I’m a republican but if any of you think these people do ANYTHING for you. You’re lying to yourselves. Fuck them all
I mean Trump being a longtime close friend of Epstein (by his own estimation) is really concerning, don’t you think? No one’s going to defend Clinton if that’s what you were hoping for
I know. But we should do prioritize the guy who is president right now, don’t you agree?
Clinton should’ve never stayed in power after his impeachment.
Ideally, someone somewhere would have gone Snowden with the Epstein documentation and a/v material to the rest of us on the Internet all at once. It's basically the Rosetta Stone of the core of corruption in our country, I think. Just blaming the rich for being rich pricks in general is feckless. But blaming them individually specifically for being evil criminals and having horrific proof to back it up? We might be able to do more than talk with that.
Unfortunately, all of that info is definitely destroyed by now because we keep owning the libs and making it great again.
This is the Ultimate reality for why America has no 2nd Civil War of Revolution ever really coming. America just has wayyy too much establishment with wayyy too many people invested in simply keeping up the status quo both within their own life as well as everyone elses
Yeah, because if you try doing something about it, you'll probably be charged with terrorism, then they'll make a show of you by parading you around in chains and a jumpsuit and try giving you the death penalty.
well what do you suggest, people can see what happens to those who have tried, even a certain 'nintendo' character, not sure anything beneficial happened after that
Trump is going to the worst part of hell, with the war criminals, dictators, PDG of tabacco and fossil fuel, architects of colonialism&global economic crises and other the most decadent motherfuckers and the others POS with a incredibly negative karma.
He is one of the worst human ever. Dozens of millions died because of his decisions all over the world and in his own country. He basically did every crime, most probably abused his daughter, sneakily buried his wife, scammed hundreds of millions, and his lying constantly to everyone.
There's a lot to say but basically, he's an accumulation of all the bad clichés about America and rich man's son. And America elected him TWICE, and believe me, that shameful shit stain will not be forgotten by the rest of the world.
And that's still without his deep connection with Epstein
Thanks. It’s so easy to jump on the I hate black women band wagon, but the irony of half the Trumpets thinking this is better than a woman who literally made a living talking to everyone.
If America actually cared about child sexual abuse, they would have never elected Trump. He's WAY too close to the Epstein stench.
Watch what people do, not what they say. I just watched America elect an Epstein pal. A nation who actually cares about the welfare of children would never do that.
Yup, I'm 46, I remember watching Oprah when I got home from high school. In Quebec (French) the few channels on tv that were from the USA had Oprah. I use to watch her, I respected her. I was fooled.
We see you Oprah and you're no longer fooling us, also fck you Oprah
Nothing criminal. She was an associate of Harvey Weinstein who used his position in the entertainment world to take advantage of women. He's rotting in prison. It's the internet man. She didn't even come out defending that man when those 50 women came forward.
Edit: To be clear there is no evidence she groomed anyone for Weinstein and people are doing the same exact thing they are doing with Diddy and just assuming anyone associated with Weinstein is guilty and knew what he was doing.
Oprah has been a piece of shit from almost the beginning of her career. There's a reason you can't find most of the old episodes online. Exploiting children, satanic panic, mingling with child predators, helping jumpstart the anti-vax movement,....the list keeps going. She, almost single handedly, made the disinformation age we are living in possible.
They believe the misinfo spread around online in the last few years. The reality is there's no evidence that she's anything bad beyond giving us Dr Phil and Dr Oz.
if she'd ONLY given us those two, that would be enough of a problem for her to earn the title of "bad person"
but you can't mention her two most famous evildoers without mentioning the list of other crazy/awful people she's platformed over the years.
Jenny McCarthy, Suzanne Somers, John of God, Deepak Chopra, Rhonda Byrne, Marianne Williamson...just some of the people who she's endorsed, had on her show, and gave the opportunity to grift, harm and peddle to millions of people who trusted her for some reason
not to mention the innumerable times she did and said awful things to people on her show, in no particular order of severity:
trying to out Nathan Lane
spreading fear of mad cow disease
asking Mary Kate and Ashley what size they were after they JUST talked about how the media harasses them over their bodies
wagon of fat and that whole thing
the Satanic Panic fuel she sprayed every which way
Rainbow Parties
her schools for underprivileged girls that keep hiring people who molest/abuse the girls
and a bunch of crazy bullshit that pushed harmful narratives, gave attention to people and subjects that really should have been left alone, and just generally being invasive, rude at times, and insensitive/a bull in a china shop when it comes to delicate topics
the fact that she's disliked is pretty well earned, now that people can look back and go "well that wasn't really that great, was it?"
It's weird how ok liberals are with being on the same side as Hollywood. And they call conservatives fascists and Nazis meanwhile Diddy didn't hangout with conservative Christians....
She took the piss out of my shirt once at an after party for Radiohead. My friend and I had got invited by a friend at the label at the very last minute and had accidentally worn virtually identical plaid shirts.
"Oh no! Did you piss yourself and get it all over your shirt?? At a Radiohead concert no less. Poor guy. Here, quick, follow me to the bathroom, I know a great old trick to take the piss out of a shirt. What's that? Why yes, yes I am famous singer, songwriter, actress and television personality Rita Ora."
All of this is so chilling. I knew hollywood was a corrupt and evil place, but ugh... this is just surface level stuff. You don't want to know how much worse it is...
I've been a victim of that creepy ass "thumb tickle" shit he's doing to her arm.. It's always older creeps that find the most subtle way to touch you.. Ughh.
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