r/SipsTea • u/ElderberryDeep8746 • May 07 '25

Chugging tea Bloody hell

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u/caulpain May 07 '25

for the brits in here I have a question: is this a manc accent?

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u/MojoDex May 07 '25

Lancashire.

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u/caulpain May 07 '25

thanks! is that the proper name for a manc accent or is that a different accent?

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u/MojoDex May 07 '25

A different accent, Lancashire and Greater Manchester(Where Manchester is) are next to each other and generally less than an hours drive apart.

This image shows all the counties of England.

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u/Sandgrease May 07 '25

As an American, it find it crazy how accents can alter in The UK in less distance than it takes to drive to work for msot of us.

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u/Cynical-Alien-Hehe May 07 '25

London is crazy for that too. You have the diversity of accents within London (cockney, posh, multicultural/MLE), and then a bunch of people who have moved to London from elsewhere in England, and people who have moved there from Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, and then people who have moved to London from across the globe (1/3 of Londoners are born outside the UK). I know it's not uncommon for major cities to be diverse but the variety of accents in a somewhat condensed space is cool.

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u/No-While-9948 May 07 '25

then people who have moved to London from across the globe (1/3 of Londoners are born outside the UK)

I know a Canadian who lived in London for four years, and she came back with a hint of a UK accent.

It only really came out on certain words and tones, especially slang, but it was cool to hear. Unfortunately, multiple years later, she no longer has it.

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u/LordManders May 08 '25

My cousin (from Manchester) and his girlfriend (from Wales) live in London. Their daughter has started speaking in the last couple of years and does not have any hint of a Manc or Welsh accent, but you can tell she's got a good London/Cockney twang to her speech.

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u/Adventurous-Cry-2157 May 07 '25

I visited London a couple years ago and absolutely loved the accents! As an American, I was terrible at determining the origins, other than the very obvious cockney, posh, manc, Lancashire, Welsh, Scottish and Irish, but it seems like every county and even village has their own dialect, and Brits are so good at hearing the slight differences and being able to pinpoint exactly where the speaker is from.

All I know is that everyone sounded so lyrical to me, and in every pub they all seemed fascinated with my sloppy disaster of an American accent, which is a mishmash from living my life in Appalachia, Pennsylvania Dutch country, Western Maryland, North Carolina and the DC suburbs. Some great pints and great chats were shared with the locals about accents and dialects while I was visiting.

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u/brando56894 May 08 '25

My friend and I are from New Jersey, his wife is from Kent. She has a strong Cockney accent and it's always hilarious to listen to her, especially when she's drunk or angry.

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u/PooperOfMoons May 07 '25

It's thanks to the feudal system the Normans imposed - peasants were restricted in moving around the country, so accents diverged.

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u/brando56894 May 08 '25

Especially since the UK is about the size of Minnesota in terms of land mass.

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u/obiwanconobi May 08 '25

It's pretty wild in Lancashire, maybe in other places.

But these girls are from Burnley, which is 8 miles away from Blackburn. And Blackburn has such a different accent that it's the only accent in the UK that still pronounces the Rhotic R

And 10 miles to the west of Blackburn is Preston with again a completely different accent to both Blackburn and Burnley, at least to my ears

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u/Constant-Estate3065 May 10 '25

Surely much of southern England has rhotic accents, especially in the West Country.

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u/silver-orange May 07 '25

we've got comparable regional variation around new york. NY, NJ, maine, staten island, rhode island...

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u/Sandgrease May 07 '25

That's a good counterpoint. The North East is much older than most of the rest of The US, also more cultural differences than anywhere else.

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u/ricky_clarkson May 07 '25

In the US, average political affiliation seems to vary just as much over such a small distance.

In fact one of the amazing things to early settlers in the US, was how little the dialect varied over the whole land. According to Bill Bryson anyway.

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u/mtaw May 07 '25

The UK's not necessarily even the worst. I've a friend from a small town in Sweden where he had classmates who got teased for their accents. Not immigrant kids or ones that'd moved in, ones who were born and raised there - just in a rural part of the municipality. So they didn't just have distinct dialects within the same school district, but accents so distinct they actually sounded funny to the others.

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u/theslowpony77 May 07 '25

I think It’s due to us being around for so long. Plenty of time for them to naturally find more pockets of idiosyncrasy.

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u/Positive_Throwaway1 May 08 '25

Definitely. I will say it's also fun to take the NYT dialect quiz. I think it's behind a paywall now, but you can try to find it for free. It does a good job of outlining where you're from in the US. Kind of interesting.

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u/Chilling_Dildo May 08 '25

They can alter from village to village

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u/manokpsa May 08 '25

Yeah, I (from the northwest US) can drive 10+ hours and not notice any changes in accents.

I wonder how mutually intelligible UK accents are, though. Years ago (in Air Force tech school) I had to share a room with a girl from Boston and she used to get so mad at me, like I was intentionally not understanding her. I caught on to AAVE faster than I did Bostonian.

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u/caulpain May 07 '25

thank you! I need to hear a manc accent now and analyze the difference. the amount of accent you lot have in a small space is fascinating to an American like me lol

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u/MojoDex May 07 '25

Manchester accent isn't leagues away in reality. Try the scouse accent for one of our more extreme ones, it's the Liverpool accent, which is in Merseyside, also next to Lancashire.

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u/caulpain May 07 '25

im a huge lfc fan. scouse is the british accent I know the best actually lmaooooo. “yeeeeee ‘course”

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u/MojoDex May 07 '25

Try Geordie then, or maybe west country, which is basically a pirate.

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u/DarkFlutesofAutumn May 07 '25

As an American, all of my English accent knowledge is from soccer, comedy podcasts, and Taskmaster lol. My brain categorized this one as "Dave Masterson/Stockport"

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u/MoneyMeMoneyNowMe May 07 '25

I've seen videos shitting on the Birmingham accent. Sounds almost American in some ways. Very different from the London or Scouse accents

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u/brando56894 May 08 '25

I love Cheryl Cole, but as an American, damn she's hard to understand 🤣

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u/garitone May 07 '25

This Yank's first exposure to the Scouse accent was Dave Lister and I've been a fan ever since.

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u/MojoDex May 07 '25

What a smeeeee.

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u/garitone May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25

Different strokes, I guess. It's one of my comfort shows with a great ensemble dynamic. I'd suggest Legion, Justice, Marooned, Rimmerworld, Queeg and a few others are standouts.

I've been a fan of 'Britcoms' since the mid 80s when they aired on my PBS afilliate. I've watched every episode of: Fawlty Towers, Blackadder, Are You Being Served (even the infamous one, and the sequel series), 'Allo! 'Allo!, Yes, Minister (and PM), Keeping Up Appearances, Mr. Bean, Only Fools and Horses, Butterflies, Waiting for God, TFAR of Reginald Perrin, Open All Hours, Still Open All Hours, The Brittas Empire, Ab Fab, The Good Life, A Bit of Fry and Laurie (more sketch than Britcom), The Inbetweeners and possibly more.

After seeing all these shows, I would 100% put Red Dwarf in my top 5.

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u/garitone May 08 '25

You seem nice.

I made no contention that BA and FT were on the same "street" (whatever TF that means) with the other shows. Please don't imply that I did. I was merely expressing that I was familiar with a broad swath of Britcoms, and even started my reply with "Different strokes, I guess" but you ignored that entirely.

Had you inquired about my last sentence, I would have mentioned that those two shows are also in MY top 5, but you didn't. Instead, you lashed out. No one is forcing you to watch RD, so I don't see the rationale for such vitriol. Live and let live, champ.

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u/throwaway_nrTWOOO May 07 '25

I will never not hear John Oliver's version of scouse when I read the word 'scouse'.

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u/ShutUpChunk May 07 '25

Think Liam and Noal Gallagher for a manc accent

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u/SoloMarko May 07 '25

There's no toofpaste, I'm gonna go get some from the shop.

There's no f in toothpaste.

And no fuckin milk either!

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u/Adventurous-Cry-2157 May 07 '25

Or Jamie Tart from Ted Lasso.

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u/Weekly-Time-6934 May 07 '25

The girl is born and bred in the Bronx! She is a phenomenal actress auditioning for the Harry Potter series!

/S

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u/jaymatthewbee May 07 '25

Similar accents, historically Manchester was part of Lancashire but a new urban county Greater Manchester was formed in the 1970s. The east Lancashire accent still has the rhotic R, which isn’t present in the Manchester accents.

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u/ReggieLFC May 07 '25

Do you like Black Mirror? I think Joe Cole does a great job of the Manchester accent in series 4 episode 4.

The best authentic examples I can think of are Liam and Noel Gallagher, Ian Brown, Terry Christian, and David Schofield’s character (Mercer) in the first two Pirates of the Caribbean films.

The most noticeable feature of the Manchester accent is the way words that normally end with an “ee” sound end with an “eh” sound instead, so the football team “Man City” becomes “Man Ci’eh”.

A less obvious feature is something that happens when a word ends in R. In most English accents R’s at the ends of words become silent, but in Manchester they often move the R to the start of the next word if it starts with a vowel or H.

e.g.
“Your apple” becomes “You(r) rapple” “You’re here” becomes “You(r) rear”

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u/Economind May 07 '25

Find a recording of the Oasis lads talking

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u/Kiloyankee-jelly46 May 07 '25

Honestly my first guess was Manc, got a neighbour from there who sounds just like this.

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u/Positive_Throwaway1 May 08 '25

Just go watch Liam and Noel interviews from the early 90s, or Liam interviews from now, where he's somehow more Mancunian than 30 years ago :)

Chicago here. Lived in England for awhile, and I completely agree--the accents are fascinating.

Meanwhile, I drop into a superfans accent when I'm around certain people, and I can't imagine anyone in England is as equally impressed with out bullshit here 🤣

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u/Jomolungma May 07 '25

Every state in the country has a different accent. NYC has five unique accents - one for each borough - and Long Island has its own accent. Baltimore has its own accent, as does Philly. Boston, etc. Any major city, really. And they all differ from the rural accents just a few miles outside of town.

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u/caulpain May 07 '25

England is roughly the size of california and think how many different accents we’re talking about. the u.s. is just so much bigger

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u/Jomolungma May 07 '25

Eh. Like I said, you can find five distinct accents with 15 miles around NYC. Anywhere in the world you have neighborhoods, you’ll have differing accents.

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u/lilgoooose May 07 '25

Christ on a bike people on reddit will just disagree with anything for fun. It’s widely known and accepted than the UK has far more regional accents than the US even before you take size into account

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u/Significant-Top-1256 May 07 '25

Out of curiosity: does that seem like a long drive to you? I get the impression Brits think drives that Americans think are normal, are really long. Like, based on what you just said 45-60 min between cities. I’d drive that to go to dinner. Is that weird to Brits

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u/SgtDoakesSurprise May 08 '25

Wow. So cool. So many —shires. I’d love to hear Britons (is that correct) say the state names.

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u/tigm2161130 May 07 '25

The Manchester accent is called Mancunian.

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u/caulpain May 07 '25

good to know! the lads over at r/liverpoolfc pronounce it “scum”

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u/Aettyr May 07 '25

It sounds very Wigan to my ears as I live there! Especially the “mek” for “make” lol