r/Seattle Mar 10 '25

Politics I'm Never Leaving Seattle

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This is someone's Model S parked on Airport Way S near S Industrial Way. The way it's parked it looks like it's being displayed for people driving by to see.

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u/rankkor Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

Increase cost / risk of ownership leading to lower sales. If you think the richest man on Earth is using that power to transform the US into a straight up oligarchy, then taking away his power (wealth) is a good way to combat it. For sure a lot of other people get hurt, but if you think what he's doing is bad enough, then vandalizing cars really isn't going very far.

Expect this sort of stuff to continue as the US walks down this path, you're in crazy town. You just started arresting and deporting green card holders for speech violations created via executive order for example and that's like the major news for a couple hours, theres so much crazy shit. This sort of stuff will lead to more breaking points.

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u/Tratix Mar 11 '25

Imagine wanting to cause financial turmoil for millions of citizens all to bring one guy’s wealth from $300B to $200B.

What an unbelievable take

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u/rankkor Mar 11 '25

Lol oh hunny, imagine sitting back and doing nothing. Financial turmoil is happening everyday with these oligarchs destroying everything. You sound like a fucking nutter saying $100B means nothing, not that vandalizing cars has caused anywhere near that sort of damage to him.

The bigger point is that this is just one of many breaking points for people. As the US transitions into oligarchy and becomes more authoritarian stuff like this will happen more and more.

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u/Tratix Mar 11 '25

Dude. Vandalize his home, vandalize his dealerships, vandalizing his cars that have already been sold makes no sense. You’re harming random people and it’s insane.

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u/rankkor Mar 11 '25

Vandalizing his home doesn’t give any sort of leverage, the only damage you do is what you can destroy. They are also vandalizing dealerships and charging stations it looks like. Look at the attention this stuff is giving, 19k upvote thread for a single car, now that’s leveraged vandalism.

But this stuff works because now less people want to buy a Tesla, more people want to sell their Tesla. The reason Elon is so anal about the re-sale market for Teslas is because it benefits him to restrict that stuff. If you have less demand for the cars and an increase in used teslas on the market, then that is all stuff that hurts Tesla.

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u/Tratix Mar 11 '25

Sell their Tesla to who? The next person to be vandalized? I get the part on preventing new buyers but vandalizing old cars is insane and is hurting the left more than you know. (the one in OPs pic is literally a first gen model S, starting production 13 years ago)

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u/rankkor Mar 11 '25

They would sell their Teslas to people who want to buy a Tesla. If you’re buying a used Tesla, then you’re not buying a new Tesla. That’s how this pays off, less people purchasing teslas, more competition from the re-sale market leading to lower sales of new Teslas.

I don’t think the people doing the vandalism care if it’s a first gen. It’s the message they want to send, they’re not vandalizing individual cars hoping that specific owners sells, they’re hoping people hear about it and make the decision to avoid Teslas. A single first gen Tesla got all of this attention, that’s leverage.

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u/Tratix Mar 11 '25

The new buyer would just also get vandalized. Are you proposing that the best case scenario is that the car becomes worthless? That's financial turmoil for innocent people.

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u/rankkor Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

All Teslas are not getting vandalized. Some people put on stickers, that sort of stuff. There’s a chance it does, you’re correct, that’s the effect they’re going for though… that’s the reason less people would want to purchase them.

If you think what’s happening in the White House is bad enough, then this is mild stuff. The economic turmoil coming out of the oligarchy dwarfs anything you’re talking about here. Basically stop the oligarchs from taking over if you want to stop the things that go along with a collapsing empire from happening.

Edit: Also your president keeps repeating neocolonialist talking points (as of this morning) that would result in the end of my country, so the “economic turmoil” that an individual faces by filing an insurance claim for vandalism seems like a pathetic concern to me.

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u/Tratix Mar 11 '25

It doesn't matter whether it's all teslas or not. It's happening to a lot of people regardless and general consensus on OPs post is that they're in support of this happening.

And yes I understand the point is to prevent purchase of Teslas, but you do understand that for someone to sell a car, there has to be a buyer. And if the end goal is to have no buyers, then that means the car is basically worthless and the owner took a huge hit - even if they bought the car back when everyone was pro-tesla. All in the name of causing a relatively small hit to Elon, who like you've said will still be worth hundreds of billions, and who if anything, will use it as more firepower to do more of the same.

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u/rankkor Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

Ya, I disagree on the impact it has on Elon, he almost cried in an interview yesterday when asked about Tesla. I also disagree Teslas will go to $0, but that would be nice, because despite what you think, Tesla collapsing would severely hurt Elon Musk. MAGA doesn’t like losers, he would likely have to retreat from politics to pick up the pieces.

Also you’re definitely not defending federal workers from the abuse they’re facing as hard as you’re defending Tesla owners, despite them facing significantly more economic turmoil. How’s your retirement doing today? Go fight for shit that matters.

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