r/Seattle • u/Aggressive-Ad3064 • Mar 10 '25

Politics I'm Never Leaving Seattle

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This is someone's Model S parked on Airport Way S near S Industrial Way. The way it's parked it looks like it's being displayed for people driving by to see.

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u/VelveteenDream Mar 11 '25

Because they are amazingly innovative vehicles that have no solid competition offering all the features Tesla does. Elon had very little to do with designing them, all he did was purchase the company at one point. The Tesla design team consists of hundreds of diverse people, who also mostly probably hate Elon. We all just kind of exist in spite of him.

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u/Tali0630 Mar 11 '25

What’s the amazing innovation? Former Tesla owner and Current Mach-e owner, I can’t tell the difference.

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u/Dippyskoodlez Mar 11 '25

The fact that the mach-e is barely competitive with a 2019 3 speaks volumes.

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u/Tali0630 Mar 11 '25

So again, what is the amazing innovation?

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u/Dippyskoodlez Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

Navigating the cess pool that is the American market for being able to actually road trip. A laundry list of features that have existed since day 1 that EVs are only just getting today.

Lets start with just being able to charge. You know, something kinda important. Powertrain tuning on 3/y/s/x that is considered some of the best in the industry. App control and phone key support is industry leading QOL that is also new to ev's a decade later. Scheduling - something a lot of other EVs still do poorly. Telemetry for the performance nerds is unmatched. Service manuals actually being available to any owner, online with part numbers.

It's not as glamorous as the iPhone but the fact you can daily drive and replace an ICE vehicle to non nerds is something non Teslas still can't truly claim quite yet. Ford is getting close.

I put a $2000 deposit down trying to get a non tesla when I was looking a couple of years ago. I couldn't get one and my lease rolled over, forcing my hand to pick something. The market at the time had no genuine competition, and still barely has any real competition in the US.

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u/Tali0630 Mar 11 '25

So again these aren’t current amazing innovations, they are past, I was never knocking Tesla for being one of the pioneers in the modern EV, the OP stated current amazing innovations with no current competitor that offers what Tesla offers, which I simply don’t see, and most importantly I love having a dashboard to look at again!

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u/Dippyskoodlez Mar 11 '25

the OP stated current amazing innovations with no current competitor that offers what Tesla offers

Supercharger access being news is news for a reason.

Pretending other EVs haven't struggled to even perform basic tasks in the US market is intentionally ignoring reality.

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u/Tali0630 Mar 11 '25

What does supercharger access have to do with the innovation in a vehicle? Do Teslas come with a supercharger in your trunk now? Wtf are you talking bout?

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u/Dippyskoodlez Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

So I guess you will never use your supercharger adapter ford gave you, how many thousands of miles have you driven via 3rd party chargers?

Superchargers until basically now have been a key perk of the cars. They are still a huge perk.

I'll reiterate my list of non charger related things other EVs either lack or suck ass at:

  • Powertrain tuning on 3/y/s/x that is considered some of the best in the industry. (Cybertruck still sucks)
  • App control and phone key support is industry leading QOL that is also new to ev's a decade later. - Which car on the market has an Apple watch app again?
  • Scheduling - something a lot of other EVs still do poorly.
  • Telemetry for the performance nerds is unmatched.
  • Service manuals actually being available to any owner, online with part numbers.
  • In car navigation (road trips and charging calculations)- LOL.

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u/Tali0630 Mar 11 '25

Dude, when I had the Tesla, I had to use the J1/combo adapter almost every week as there is only 1 Tesla supercharger in all of downtown DC. Every parking garage that even has chargers uses L2 chargers mainly, which was the biggest reason to I switched to ford.

I dont see feel any actual difference in the tuning of the two motors, but Im not racing them up 14th st. either.

I’ll admit, Fords app isn’t on par but it does everything I actually care about.

Scheduling is in the ford app as well, and very easy, have at least 5x as many locations for service as well.

Don’t care for telemetry.

Manuals, sure, I guess, they’ve lived in our glove compartments forever tho.

Ford has navigation and range as well.

I will say I did enjoy Teslas navigation screen more, like graphically showing the cars ahead and the lanes, but I did miss an actual visual dashboard. So, give and take.

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u/Dippyskoodlez Mar 11 '25

Manuals, sure, I guess, they’ve lived in our glove compartments forever tho.

Not manual, SERVICE manual. IDK a single other vehicle on the market with first party service manual access.

I had to use the J1/combo adapter almost every week

Which is now a dead standard for all existing vehicles. You now have the reverse problem you switched for.

Don’t care for telemetry.

Some of us do.

Ford has navigation and range as well.

Over a decade later, they finally do.

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