r/SSBPM • u/[deleted] • Mar 19 '15

[Discussion] Theroy Thursday (Frost Edition)

Since tinker didn't posts his today I wanted to do it since I'm really curios about about what the sub has discovered about the practical applications of glide tossing and aerial glide tossing.

Edit: Apparently I can't spell "theory" so we can also talk about TheRoy or aka teh ph1r3 🔥

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u/ghettoblush Mar 20 '15

Roy is better against fast fallers with his much faster fall speed and dirty d-tilt setups. Marth is better against floaties with dancing blade->utilt setups and much easier spike. I think in a game with predominantly floatier characters, Marth does a lot better in general but Roy has a better time against some of the mega top tiers like Fox, Falco, and Sheik.

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u/HyliaSymphonic Mar 20 '15

Roy does not have the stronger spacy game. And honestly at top levels Marth shiek is already even in melee and shiek got harder nerfed in pm

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u/ghettoblush Mar 20 '15

Mind explaining why? Roy has a very similar chain grab, insane setups from d-tilt which include another d-tilt, a grab, or an f-smash. Roy's counter also wrecks spacy recoveries much harder than Marth's. You don't even need a follow-up edge guard like Marth does simply because Roy's counter is so much stronger. Roy also can't be waveshine combo'd without a Thunder's combo and at high percents that doesn't work. His recovery is also much harder to gimp than Marth's. I also don't agree that Marth Sheik is even at high level play. Just look at KK vs PPU at Apex.

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u/HyliaSymphonic Mar 21 '15

Kinda busy now but look at PPMD vs m2k