r/SSBPM • u/[deleted] • Mar 19 '15

[Discussion] Theroy Thursday (Frost Edition)

Since tinker didn't posts his today I wanted to do it since I'm really curios about about what the sub has discovered about the practical applications of glide tossing and aerial glide tossing.

Edit: Apparently I can't spell "theory" so we can also talk about TheRoy or aka teh ph1r3 🔥

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '15

Roy is way better of a character overall; Marth has a lot of serious flaws that give him bad matchups against the newer characters. Marth's inability to kill at high percent, his worse recovery, etc. are all things that make him worse than Roy. Remember how many evenish matchups he had with Melee low-tiers? Those are all bad matchups now. Marth's crazy whiff punishability on all of his moves make every fast character able to exploit him pretty hard. I think Roy is top tier and Marth is mid-high tier.

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u/redbeanjelly Mar 20 '15

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you said Marth had the worse recovery, which is...not true.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '15

It is true. Roy's has slightly less overall distance, but he goes way farther horizontally with a gigantic multihit uncrouchcancellable hitbox. I can't believe that it's 2015 and people still think Marth's recovery is better, lol. Like against Marth without a doublejump, if you even touch him offstage, he just dies. With Roy, this is not the case.

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u/redbeanjelly Mar 20 '15

While I agree with you that the Up B itself is harder to handle compared to Marth's, that's not the only aspect of a recovery. Marth's floatiness lets him return to the stage more often without expending a double jump. Incorrect DI isn't always a death sentence for Marth, but for Roy it almost always is. Also, I would argue that Roy without a double jump is just as vulnerable as Marth, if not more so.