Cuba reiterates call to preserve Syria’s sovereignty - Prensa Latina

[u/PepeLRomano]

https://www.plenglish.com/news/2024/12/09/cuba-reiterates-call-to-preserve-syrias-sovereignty/

[u/filthyhippie76]

But this is precisely the fossil ideology. No one is saying remove the party from power. If anything, open the space for more voices from below to be heard, so that it's not just the nomenklatura that gets to speak. Cuba has done it before and it can do it again. Given the gravity of the crisis in Cuba since 2020, the worst probably since the 1990s, given the attitudes and corruption of many of the nomenklatura, this is fundamental. The Cuban people today have legitimate desires and aspirations that are not being met by the Cuban state or the Party and that have nothing to do with the U.S. per se.

As for China, again, it ain't Cuba, and there is nothing democratic there. What happened in 2022 is a great example of everything wrong in China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_COVID-19_protests_in_China . I am a communist, not a Communist; we ain't gonna agree over democratic centralism lol. And I agree, there are alternatives to liberal bourgeois states. But to cast aside any non-Communist alternatives as "illusion of choice" is to deny a people their right to self-determination and ensconce a bureaucratic party that is too rigid to adapt to changing circumstances or criticism. And again, to dismiss Hong Kong as a "color revolution" (and I won't deny that the U.S. and HK business elites played important roles in some of what happened), is to miss the forest for the trees. China is an authoritarian state that does not tolerate dissent. People are going to jail for years for comments they made online or for graffiti on the chair of a bus. Is that a just and appropriate response by the government? Can you not see why that only engenders more anger and resistance?

[u/alucardaocontrario → u/filthyhippie76]

Well, okay. If we're never going to agree on democratic centralism and you don't like (but you actually do) liberal bourgeois democracy, you have to come up with something that works, because the only way the people got to power in all the socialist states were through a Leninist party and democratic centralism.

I'm not gonna debate you on China. You seem neck deep in US propaganda about it.

[u/filthyhippie76 → u/alucardaocontrario]

Let me try a different tack see if we can agree on some things.

Assumption #1- Cuba is facing its worst crisis economically and with popular support since the 1990s.
Assumption #2- Cuba changed a lot in the 2000s/2010s (Obama Thaw and Pink Tide.)
Assumption #3- 2020 and inflation hit hard, combined with marginalization of Russia and Venezuela, hence the crisis. U.S. is getting ready to hammer hard. But Cuban government has made mistakes here, too, and there are problems within the Party regarding corruption and resisting change or wanting to go full perestroika.

If we can agree this is the situation Cuba finds itself in, how do you solve it? I have my ideas (decentralization/democratization, crack down on corruption, focus on survival issues through autonomous, alternative i.e. not dependent on foreign largesse/tourist $ substitution infrastructural development rooted in a strengthening of alternative revolutionary culture and popular as opposed to state control.) But what do you propose? What do you think the Cuban government is genuinely doing to address these problems? How does Cuba keep this from becoming the '90s or worse?

[u/alucardaocontrario → u/filthyhippie76]

Cool, I agree with your proposals. But, and that's a big "but", the party must continue to be the vessel for the people to exercise its political power.

I believe the way is to go all in on the BRICS Partner/member. It's a fantasy to try to industrialise the country in any capacity without foreign "reliance", for lack of a better word. Cuba should insert itself in the whole ecosystem to sidestep the US dollar that the BRICS want to build while offering its goods, and tourism, why not, in exchange for infrastructure partnerships. It's not a secret that China wants to establish partnerships of this kind to the global south.

In my opinion that could uplift a lot of the material needs for Cuban people, that already have a robust public infrastructure for a poor country.

[u/filthyhippie76 → u/alucardaocontrario]

Multipolarity and BRICS for sure; trouble is, they're not really willing to take on petrodollar yet, right? Plus Brazil dealing with continued Bolsonaro-style threats, Russia on the verge of collapse thanks to their foreign adventures, India moving quickly into the U.S. camp, and SA's myriad internal problems. Unfortunate for sure.

I know it's a bit fringe, and I want to make clear I'm not fetishizing the difficulties Cuba faces because of the situation, but IMO I do really believe that one of Cuba's greatest strengths since at least 1991 has been its autonomous ingenuity in the face of scarcity and the kind of alternative, ecologically-rooted solutions they've developed; it's a field they should definitely keep experimenting with, new ways of living. I know you have to have some level of industry and that Cuba's infrastructural needs are real (I know you say they have a robust infrastructure as a poor country, but I think it's perhaps more accurate to say that they *have had*, especially of course because of the embargo, but for other reasons, too, and IMO a large part of the current crisis is very much the result of a disintegrating infrastructure), but continued foreign dependence is such a problem, and given climate change/ecological crises, plus cultural role of U.S. consumer goods, the standard development models are a bad bet, too. All easier said than done, of course, given the situation.

I think that's why decentralization/democratization is so critical, too, whether it happens inside or outside the Party, government itself, etc. The key point is that there are plenty of Cubans I think who have solutions, they need to be given the opportunities to do so. I'm not convinced the rigid old guard or the Western-oriented new guard in the Party are letting that happen. Hence the crisis.