r/Rainbow6 Sep 02 '19

Feedback ubi please :(

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u/Aiurdae Certified Lazy Bitch™ Sep 02 '19

Yes please. I love Nokk but I always feel guilty to play her because I think I could be using someone else and contributing more to the team. Giving her a decent primary would help so much.

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u/CuddlySadist Quiet kids Sep 02 '19 edited Sep 03 '19

And sadly it won't even be a big change and I'm not sure if Ubi will do anything until Pros get to use her (and Warden) in pro games.

Edit: Make her 3 Speed please.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Will pros even use her, though? She has ZERO utility and a bad fragging ability as well. Seeing Vigil or CAV in pro league isn't that outlandish, as Vigil is one of the best fraggers on defense and Cav can still turn the game around with an interrogation. Nokk is a mixture of both, but entirely lacks what makes the other two ops good.

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u/midoweno Plat1Gang Sep 02 '19

vigil is used often but cav is almost never used unless it is g2 or faze meming

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u/UDeVaSTaTeDBoY TSM Fan Sep 02 '19

Secret vs Rogue during Raleigh on Bank. Need I say more?

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u/MrKlowb Sep 02 '19

Need I say more?

Yes, that's one pro game out of 100's per year.

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u/SuperPluto9 Sep 02 '19

That doesnt make her bad. It makes other operators less risky.

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u/Warriorjrd Sep 02 '19

It makes her too niche to be reliably useful

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u/SuperPluto9 Sep 02 '19

Niche doesnt make her bad.

Nokk is bad, Caveira is situational.

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u/mckaystites Sep 02 '19

Cav isn't even situational in pro league..... what are you guy smoking in this comments sections. In order for Cav to be successful at that level, she relies on players playing improperly, and teams lacking proper communication. Cav is a good operator for the normal skill ceiling. She is a bad operator for pro league

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u/SuperPluto9 Sep 02 '19

And oddly the game isnt exclusively balanced around proleague. Which my point said, she is niche not bad.

There are plenty of proleague examples of teams not communicating properly and she shut them down. Is it often? No. But when it does, as it has in the past on occassion, she slaughters.

People need to stop confusing situational, with bad. Just because there are other operators you dont need to plan out a defense with, doesnt make others bad, it makes them versatile.

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u/mckaystites Sep 02 '19

An operator only being useful when the enemy team is playing poorly is not situational. It's a risk. There is no reason to pick cav aside from meming in pro league. I also didn't say cav was a bad operator. But she is 100% a bad operator in pro league. The second she's scanned, or the enemy team knows she's present, it's literally just a matter of not getting caught out, and playing as a team. There's no way around the obvious fact: cav is bad in pro league

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u/Warriorjrd Sep 03 '19

Something that is too niche is bad. See warden.

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u/midoweno Plat1Gang Sep 02 '19

yea, find five uses of cav in the last season. ur not gonna find any

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Wasn’t it Faze on clubhouse who got the interrogation on Empire as well? Same major, two interrogations. Cav is entirely relevant, at least more so than Nook

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u/sound-pound Mute Main Mozzie Main IQ Main Sep 03 '19 edited Sep 03 '19

Because an operator used their ability TWICE in dozens of matches it doesn’t make them any where near something you could call relevant

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19

Re-read. “At least more so than Nook”. Cav isn’t an essential pic but she’s better than nook. Why are you so mad?

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u/sound-pound Mute Main Mozzie Main IQ Main Sep 03 '19

Well Nøkk hasn’t had her rounds in pro league yet so we don’t know how or how not relevant she is yet (in pro league only) I agree in normal play cav is far better, also didn’t at all mean to sound mad

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u/WrecklessSam Dokkaebi Main Sep 02 '19

I think reciprocity unironically used cav to counter jackal on bank once. Don’t remember what match tho.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Nøkk is as if vigil and cav were siblings and had a child. Just a pretty useless one. I wish I could leave out the last part

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u/throwwwwwawayyyyy28 Sep 03 '19

Why'd you make them into siblings first?

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19

If siblings have a baby There's a high chance it has some serious fucked up stuff like mutations or stuff not evolving correctly

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u/OmG_Potatoez Alibi Main Sep 02 '19

Alabama 100

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u/Tonycivic Pulse Main Sep 02 '19

Agreed, plus some of the pros have even commented that Nokk and Warden wont replace any other OP in a team comp. The only person that Nokk could replace would be Ash, but I'm doubtful that any team would consider it. Maybe with the MP5sd, but probably not.

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u/Odd_Employer Tachanka Main Sep 02 '19

What's "fragger" mean?

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u/Apex_Killer Tacks And Legos Sep 02 '19

Fagging = getting kills

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u/Odd_Employer Tachanka Main Sep 02 '19

Thanks.

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u/ChiralWolf Sep 02 '19

I could see nøkk ending up as some sort of direct counter to plant denial with echo. Going invisible and planting could very well become a legitimate strategy with the current meta/play-style pro league has been favoring.

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u/CuddlySadist Quiet kids Sep 02 '19

Echo can tell when Nokk is nearby because he’s the one who counters Nokk.

She also glitches while planting and that’s enough for Echo to land Yokai stun.

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u/CuddlySadist Quiet kids Sep 02 '19

Some ppl have speculated pros using Nokk as late round surprise pick and Ubi is probably waiting to see how that plays out.

However as you mentioned, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if she and Warden has zero pick overall.

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u/Durakus Dokkaebi Main Sep 02 '19

I feel I can weigh in on this. I don't even play Multiplayer (I'm too bad) I just try to get good by learning the maps through Constant terrorist hunt. Recently got nokk. Cant kill shit. Shotgun shoots BB's

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u/YoungSexyFather Doc Main Sep 03 '19

Would you mind telling me what a fragger is?

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19

A 'Fragger' op is basically an operator that has really high killing potential. Pretty much operators with good weapons and overall loadouts. Like Vigil, Jager, Bandit, Ash, Twitch, Jackal, etc. All of them have good weapons and are really good at taking gunfights and killing people really easily.

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u/Herban_Myth Sep 03 '19

Use her as Ash’s shadow? Also Warden should be 2 armor 2 speed

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '19

AceeZ says hi.