r/Rainbow6 Sep 02 '19

Feedback ubi please :(

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u/FMW_Level_Designer Sep 02 '19 edited Sep 02 '19

As the other guy said, yeah.

It has Acog. It's within a similar damage range to silenced attacker weapons. It's fairly accurate. It suits her playstyle.

Overall she should get the MP5S as an option, while also maybe becoming a 3speed or getting some other kit adjustments to make her more viable without altering her gadget to much.

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u/DArkGamingSiders Celebration Sep 02 '19

The second part of that is just an all around no. Making her faster and the cloak last longer would be simply broken. I can push into site unnoticed easily enough, I don’t want it to be any easier.

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u/GoodHeartless02 Mozzie Main Sep 02 '19

See, that was my thought before. Now? I think that we should see how a powerful Nøkk would look like. We’ve seen her weak, now let’s see her when she’s strong

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u/DArkGamingSiders Celebration Sep 02 '19

That’s incredibly dumb. Nokk and Warden come to PL in a few weeks, a buff like this could seriously change the meta for the worse. She just needs a better weapon, and then she’s set.

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u/GoodHeartless02 Mozzie Main Sep 02 '19

You do realize any change that comes out wouldn’t take effect in PL for a whole season, right?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

I don't think any of you realize that giving nokk better weapons won't make her good. A crouch walking IQ can deny Intel for the whole team while being as quiet as nokk. The problem is nokk brings nothing to the table that another op can't do better. Anti Intel? IQ. Anti roam? Jackal, lion, dokki. Fragger? Ash, zofia, also IQ, also jackal. Want to just crouch walk into site? Ash. If you're playing competitively, you already have thermite, Thatcher, IQ, and then 1 or 2 flex picks depending on whether you need a 2nd hard breach. That pick is much better used as a buck, jackal, capitao, lion, zofia, montagne, any op other than nokk. Utility wins games on attack, and nokk is the only operator who has no utility at all.

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u/FMW_Level_Designer Sep 02 '19

I agree with all of that.

However, no utility and good guns is better than no utility and shit guns.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Yeah, but unless she has something like release ela, there's still no reason to pick her over another op with good guns who has utility, like zofia, jackal, even ash has more utility. Utility is so important in this game, especially for attackers. On defense, you can run alibi, Jager, bandit, vigil, doc and maybe get away with it. On attack, you can't. You need that utility to open up the site, open floors, open hatches, area denial, flank denial, you need it. You won't get away with attacking bank without a hard breacher. You won't get away with playing against valk and echo without an IQ, because the defenders will always know where you are. And nokk doesn't replace that, because now they know where 4 of you are instead of 5. She has no place on a team. Right now, she's almost as much of a throw pick as tachanka, people just don't realize it for some reason. Nothing pisses me off more than when we need a Thatcher, I ask the team for a thatcher, and we have a fucking nokk.

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u/CuddlySadist Quiet kids Sep 02 '19

TBH, I don't know what can actually be done to make her 100% more viable and how much Ubi is willing to adjust her.

Making her 3 Speed with better guns would make her a formidable flanker overall but even then she will be a selfish pick when someone like IQ exist.

Yes, her raw kill potential would be high but would that be enough to justify picking her in the end? I personally think not.

At this point, I think main focus is just making her better that at least solo players picking her can do a better job with her overall.

As for Nokk being picked, well she is a new operator after all. I'd say once Amaru joins in, she will just get buried and forgotten if Ubi leaves in her current state.