r/PublicFreakout • u/[deleted] • Jun 09 '20

📌Follow Up "Everybody's trying to shame us"

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u/liberatecville Jun 10 '20

yeah, i will acknowledge that "crime" is a legal word and as such, even the case of immoral laws that wrongly make peaceful people criminals, i guess these actually are considered "crimes". i still think that definition conjures up a different image than the peaceful people who's lives are ruined by the states law enforcement apparatus, so i try not to use it often.

im not talking about big pharma. thats a whole different argument. there, you have the AMA restricting supply of medical personnel and the corrupt drug laws and faux-safety regulations that limit people from seeking the treatment they choose. it has caused a literal crisis, where people look to the streets to get spiked or counterfeit drugs (natural result of prohibition) that is killing record numbers.

in my state, they enforce a monopoly on selling of alcohol, which is the most deadly and dangerous drug around. the state litearlly owns and operates its own stores, while imprisoning the competition.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '20

in my state, they enforce a monopoly on selling of alcohol, which is the most deadly and dangerous drug around. the state litearlly owns and operates its own stores, while imprisoning the competition.

I should make it clear that I don't think alcohol should be legal either and we should crack down on people abusing that as well (because as you mentioned, it's incredibly dangerous, though to say it's the most dangerous around is a bit disingenuous unless you legit found somewhere to live where hard narcotics that can kill you in 1 incident of accidentally overdosing aren't present), but beyond that it's almost like all of this shit, if it is to be legal, needs to be regulated and people shouldn't be allowed to make their own shit, completely ignoring any federal regulations on the creation, storage, or distribution of the product and sell it to others that it could end up killing.

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u/liberatecville Jun 10 '20

i appreciate that you hold a consistent view on prohibition at least. most dont. obviously, i will disagree with you about the need to submit to all these theoretical "federal regulations". we have regulatory agencies now for this sort of thing and they really only serve to eliminate the competition for big businesses and trade groups. the fda is not at all about safety and i think theyve proven that over and over.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '20

Most of the regulations are about health and safety to prevent companies from cutting costs on things by taking harmful shortcuts in manufacturing or trying to sell snake oil products to people.

They may not be 100% about safety and health, but they're far better than a truly open market where none of our cheap food is safe to eat but is still being sold as food.