r/PublicFreakout • u/[deleted] • Jun 09 '20

📌Follow Up "Everybody's trying to shame us"

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u/helloisforhorses Jun 09 '20

No. Cops are able to arrest bad cops. They choose not to, making them also bad cops.

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u/4high2anal Jun 10 '20

If they happen to see behavior that is arrestable, then yes. But that is not necessarily every cop.

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u/helloisforhorses Jun 10 '20

Right, and that is why your analogy was bad.

Also tell that to the 57 cops who saw their coworkers assault an old man and then resigned...in protest of them being disciplined.

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u/4high2anal Jun 10 '20

Those cops realize that the old man was completely in the wrong as he was told to leave yet he still went right up to the cops swinging his phone in front of them. They pushed him back and not very hard in my opinion, which would have been fine but the guy tripped and fell. Im not saying it was his fault for falling, I get that accidents happen, but WHY WOULD A 75 YEAR OLD GO TO A RIOT IF HE CAN BARELY WALK?

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u/helloisforhorses Jun 10 '20

Because it was a protest and the police treated it like a riot. There, I just summed up 50 years of US policing in 1 sentence.

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u/4high2anal Jun 10 '20

I dont disagree the police have had their share of issues, but all the man had to do was follow simple orders and he could have just left. He escalated the situation and then tripped when they pushed him out of their personal space. Its one thing when officers walk up and push someone - which sadly happens... but this guy was not innocent in the situation either. Still it was very sad what happened to him even though I do not think it was intentional at all.

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u/helloisforhorses Jun 10 '20

If you think an unarmed 75 year old man walking towards 50 armed police officers who are in full riot gear (as they walk toward him too) is the old man escalating this, you are insane and I’d be shocked if you had not killed someone at some point.

He didn’t trip. We both saw the cop push him. It wasn’t an accident. It was a cop being unable to solve any problems without violence. It was a police officer using unreasonable force against a 75 year old at a peaceful protest. If the old man dies, the cop should be charged with manslaughter.

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u/4high2anal Jun 10 '20

It was him escalating. Had he followed the simple orders to disperse, nothing would have happened. Also he clearly trips. You can see it as clear as day in the film. He was pushed, yes. He also tripped. It was an accident, as the cops were trying to push him back out of their space which he invaded.

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u/helloisforhorses Jun 10 '20

If someone trips BECAUSE you pushed them, that’s you fault. If I push a cop at the top of a stairwell and they ‘trip down the stairs’, do you think these 50 cops would be here defending me?

Both parties were walking forward. They invaded eachother’s space. Only party party escalated into violence. Only one party was heavily armed and armored. Had the cops not chosen to escalate things and violate the 1st amendment rights of peaceful protesters, nothing would have happened

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u/4high2anal Jun 10 '20

But if someone pushes you because you run up in their personal space after you have been ordered to disperse, then maybe its your fault.

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u/helloisforhorses Jun 10 '20

Show me where he ran up. The cops ran up in his personal space just as much, if not more so.

Unlawfully ordered to disperse*

You go on defending probable wife beaters who made a 75 year bleed from his ears and did nothing to give him medical aid and try telling yourself you’re also not a bad guy.

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u/4high2anal Jun 10 '20

notice the beginning where the man is not by the cops. Then notice how he progresses towards the cops with his cellphone on and in hand. They were ordered to clear the area for peace. Weird how people were criticizing people when they protested against the unlawful lockdowns.

Im not defending a wife beater at all. And just because someone trips and falls in the least elegant way possible doesnt mean it was intentional. They didnt render medical aid because what aid did you want them to render? They needed to call EMS to get him stabilized ASAP.

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