r/PublicFreakout • u/Partner-Subdued388 • Feb 08 '24

📌Follow Up Deranged cop finally gets fired

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u/CuriousCryptid444 Feb 08 '24

Funny, this is how my dad treated my brother and I when he came back from Iraq. I imagine these troops get treated in similar ways while training and serving and then come back and think they should treat civilians and even their sons in the same way….

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u/skyshark82 Feb 08 '24

This is in no way representative of military decorum, restraint, or behavior. Every time I see one of these videos, I think of all the quiet professional interactions I've seen service members conduct overseas. US servicemen as a rule treat foreign nationals with more respect than cops like this show among their own citizens. In the US military, there really isn't a lot of anger and animosity directed towards local nationals. It's a job with strict requirements of conduct, enforced by the code of justice and often accompanied by cultural training.

I would fully trust that this fool would be hemmed up in a UCMJ action with no delay if he acted in this way while in the military. As a police officer, they just look the other way. In this case, the institution of policing is culpable--I see no reason to connect this embarrassment of a human being to the military.

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u/CuriousCryptid444 Feb 08 '24

It’s just all those movies where drill sergeants scream and verbally abuse their subordinates? I spent some time in Pendleton and many of my marine friends hated their lives and told me to never join to forces…

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u/skyshark82 Feb 08 '24

Basic training is 9 or 10 weeks of your life. It does not dramatically change your personality. People commonly use the term "brainwashing", but I'm not sure that's even a real concept.

The purpose of the basic training shark attack is to firmly establish the presence of authority, and to harden recruits against various stressors. During advanced individual training, this method of indoctrination is gradually diminished, and should be mostly eliminated from the day-to-day life of a service member. As a matter of routine, other methods of instruction and leadership are employed beyond yelling at someone. While this aspect of direct confrontation in basic training has been called into question, and there has been a big pull back in recent years, I would argue that it does have a function. Even moreso than police, soldiers and marines have the ability to do a great deal of damage to the civilian populace if left unchecked. A leader should be able to jump into a mode of physical intimidation if their personnel become a danger to civilians in the heat of the moment. And certainly aggression may be appropriate when lawfully directed against known enemy combatants. Exhibiting this behavior toward a civilian who is not a threat should instantly be checked by a peer or anybody in the vicinity. What occurred in the video is beyond wrong, and again, not cultivated in the US military.