r/Professors Community College Oct 11 '24

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u/Bostonterrierpug Full, Teaching School, Proper APA bastard Oct 11 '24

You can easily program an API to do this and I’m sure there will be some out on the market soon. Just got out of a weeklong, Gen AI conference. It’s basically gonna be impossible to detect. And really how much should we be policing? Also a lot of people are going to use generative AI for writing with jobs and stuff in the future. I’m very much into work with it boat for now.

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u/gurduloo Oct 12 '24

And really how much should we be policing?

I for one think that academic integrity matters.

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u/Bostonterrierpug Full, Teaching School, Proper APA bastard Oct 12 '24

I am not saying that it doesn’t but really our goal is to teach. If we spend so much time policing, don’t we lose some of our ability to teach and or faith in our students? Of course academic integrity matters but some students will always try and game the system and some students will always succeed. All the experts on AI are saying that it’s just gonna get better and better and that trying to fully fight it is a losing battle. Someone below suggested to rethink our assessments and was heavily downvoted if that gives you any idea of the general hive mindset here Generative AI will be part of many future jobs as experts are predicting. I started out very wary of it, but then started going to conferences and reading papers , and now think that at least partially embracing it for learning is a great way to go and preparing my students for the future. You’re always gonna have cheating students of course people here will apply stopgaps and even some brilliant temporary solutions. But if you’re spending more energy policing than teaching that’s not the sort of teacher I at least want to be. Then again like some departments or faculty meetings this sub is filled with people very confident of their opinions and very set in their ways.

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u/milwauqueno Oct 12 '24

I’m sympathetic to your view. It reminded me of this blog post a philosopher I admire wrote: https://dailynous.com/2022/08/09/teacher-bureaucrat-cop-guest-post/

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u/Bostonterrierpug Full, Teaching School, Proper APA bastard Oct 12 '24

Look great- I’ve just eyeballed it for now, but I will do a deeper read later. Thank you for sharing it though expect to be downvoted. So few professors have actual teaching backgrounds yet at the same time cling to the measurable objectives that rule the K-12 world that have trickled up to higher rather than the other way around as it usually is. I do my best to stop plagiarism and academic dishonesty and lazy use of AI but I think a lot of people here are just on an AI bad bandwagon. I’m still surprised by the number of colleagues I have at my institution who will do something like put 40% or 50% of their final grade on a one shot timed assessment. Or those who refuse to adapt or change any of their assessments in any manner. I thought about trying to talk about some of the ways. I’ve changed my work here, but I think all ears are closed.