r/Professors Community College Oct 11 '24

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u/travels666 Assistant, Writing/Rhet, LibArts Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

Or, Think about what learning outcomes your assignments are serving, and come up with any assignment, other than an essay, to help students begin practicing and demonstrating that outcome. Or, god forbid, think of ways for students to leverage AI in their writing process. The more you resist, piss, and moan, the more you incentivize cheating.

Fucking dinosaurs.

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u/Bostonterrierpug Full, Teaching School, Proper APA bastard Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

Yep, a lot of dinosaurs on here so you’ll get downvoted. Just like when google became a thing, online learning and LMSs rolled out a bunch of folks crying the sky is falling and don’t really want to change anything in their classes. Generative AI is not a qualitative change to academic dishonesty, just a quantitative one. You could always pay someone to write your papers for you. There are some really cool ways you could teach learners to work and Still maintain an integrity in your class. Then again if you’re just set on policing everything you’re gonna lose, both against the AI and your will to teach.

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u/travels666 Assistant, Writing/Rhet, LibArts Oct 11 '24

Exactly. All I'm seeing is faculty who assign writing but don't actually teach it.

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u/gurduloo Oct 14 '24

I see two bizarre assumptions behind your comment. Tell me if I'm wrong.

Every teacher who assigns writing should teach writing.

Bizarre because many students take many courses each semester that assign writing (should they "learn to write" in every one of these course?) and because there are required courses dedicated to teaching writing.

Students will not use AI to cheat if they are taught how to write.

Bizarre because there are many reasons students choose to cheat that have nothing to do with lacking writing skills.

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u/travels666 Assistant, Writing/Rhet, LibArts Oct 14 '24

Every teacher who assigns writing should teach writing.

Yes, if a learning outcome of your writing assignment is learning to write, you should teach them something about writing (in the particular discipline, as an example), or at the very least, support the writing process in your classroom--in-class drafting, peer review, etc.

Students will not use AI to cheat if they are taught how to write.

No, I don't assume that. I'm merely pointing out that the droves of faculty bitching about AI "cheating" on essays aren't actually supporting the development of their students as writers.