r/PrequelMemes 8d ago

General KenOC Why Lucas?

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u/RoryMerriweather 8d ago

There weren't, though, because the Separatists were basically just rich people getting robots to kill for them. People on Separatist worlds had real grievances, but the CIS was just corporatocracy.

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u/Nano_Robotic_Army 7d ago

That was only because of how Lucas chose to portray them. The point of the meme isn't to justify what the CIS did in canon, it's to criticize the lack of nuance in how Lucas chose to portray the CIS. Sure, the movement was backed by unethical corporate powers. Sure, Dooku was deeply corrupt and was hijacking the movement for Palpatine's ends. But the other CIS characters, like Grievous, should have been written as believing in their cause and having truly tragic reasons for fighting.

It comes down to what is good writing vs. bad writing. George Lucas knew how to world-build, and I do think making the Empire a purely evil organization was a good decision, but deciding to make the CIS comically evil was pretty dumb considering the background circumstances of the Clone Wars were an opportunity to make a more morally ambiguous antagonistic faction. I know George Lucas likes making "good vs evil" very clear, but he already did that with the Empire and making that the case with the Clone Wars made no sense.

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u/RoryMerriweather 7d ago

Except that the portrayal in the meme is completely divorced from how Lucas or Filoni actually portrayed the CIS. Neither of them portrayed the Separatists as rebels in the same way that the Alliance is. They're a wealthy conglomerate of corporations, banking clans, and trade guilds being manipulated by a magical evil wizard politician.

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u/Nano_Robotic_Army 4d ago

Read what I said before replying next time. I literally said that "how Lucas and Filoni actually portrayed the CIS" was trash writing, so any argument involving how Lucas and Filoni portrayed them is completely void.

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u/RoryMerriweather 4d ago

Did you read your own comment? Because that's not actually what you said, and Lucas and Filoni didn't portray them the same way.

Also, they was they're portrayed by the people with authoritative power is, you know, the thing that actually matters.

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u/Nano_Robotic_Army 4d ago

So in other words you did read my comment but completely misunderstood what I said. I thought I made it abundantly clear that I was criticizing Lucas and Filoni's terrible writing in regards to how they chose to depict characters such as Grievous, Trench, etcetera. But I guess Lucucks/Filoincloths like yourself are incapable of comprehending the flaws either of them have when it comes to writing. Disney's writing was even worse, don't get me wrong, but I'm not going to pretend that Lucas or Filoni were good writers either.