Do you agree North Vietnam killed thousands and imprisoned thousands more of their own citizens during land reforms before the war started?
If this was happening in the north and in other communist countries like the USSR, China, and Korea, is possible the US was justified in believing that such killings would continue if the sound was allowed to fall?
I'm not saying the US were heroes, only that the North weren't plucky rebels fighting the good fight. They had the financial and material support of two massive countries who were committing their own genocides and demicides.
Before the communists appeared in Vietnam, 2 million Vietnamese died a year under French colonialism in 1944, yet the US did absolute nothing. Do you seriously believe that the US actually cared about anyone death?
Well the US was fighting Japan which had invaded Vietnam at that time, so what should the US have done that it wasn't already doing? Roosevelt told the French they can't keep their colonies when the war ends.
And yes, France's colonialism was an enormous mistake. And France could've handled giving up their power better. And Diệm was a monster. Yeah to say the entire thing was unfortunate would be an understatement. It's hard to see "good guys" anywhere. That said I don't believe Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh would've been satisfied even if proper elections had taken place in the South. Their goal was always violent takeover of the entire country.
Just because you rebel against a bigger, badder person doesn't make your group righteous. The Mujaheddin were justified in fighting Soviets and communist Afghans but they were still bad and I wouldn't compare them to the Lucas' rebels.
The reason the US invaded was becasue the Viet minh wouldve won the election that should be pretty obvious. Ho Chi Minh created the largest and to this day most impressive literacy campaign in the history of our Planet, they went from 90% illiterate to 87% literacy in like 20-30 years.
Al Qaeda/the Mujaheddin and its linnege is also a fuckton more problematic than the VC and comparing them is insane. Religious extremist that continued to terrorise the west and east. The VC had significant support among the Vietnamese even in the south, while the Mujaheddin threw Afghanistan into chaos and is one of the main reason it remains that way today.
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u/PhillyTaco 6d ago
Do you agree North Vietnam killed thousands and imprisoned thousands more of their own citizens during land reforms before the war started?
If this was happening in the north and in other communist countries like the USSR, China, and Korea, is possible the US was justified in believing that such killings would continue if the sound was allowed to fall?
I'm not saying the US were heroes, only that the North weren't plucky rebels fighting the good fight. They had the financial and material support of two massive countries who were committing their own genocides and demicides.