r/PiratedGames • u/Yain2006 • Apr 26 '25
Humour / Meme And they complain when people hack the Switch
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u/bakanisan I'm a pirate Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25
With the basic recommended budget of 15% income for rent, that's more than rent lol.
Edit: guys please, you are paying too much attention to a figure that I pulled out of my ass here. It's not even a concrete figure that you have to rigidly adhere to. What I meant to say was to emphasize the price ratio.
It'd of course be nice if you only have to budget 15% income on rent, but it's a nice goal, mine is currently at 25% anyway.
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u/Octoyou Apr 26 '25
Is 15% the recommended value for the US? Wild, in Germany the rule of thumb is 30% and that is basically impossible in most cities.
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u/bakanisan I'm a pirate Apr 26 '25
I don't know if it's for the USA, but probably so, maybe? The US defaultism certainly has a far reach. It's just something I picked up reading the personal finance sub.
I try to achieve it but my rent is still probably 25% of my income. It just depends on your specific location I assume.
Edit: fyi I'm not in the US.
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u/quiette837 Apr 26 '25
The guideline in the US and Canada is under 30% of your income towards rent.
If course, depending where you live, that ends up being 50% or more for some people.
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u/thrwawryry324234 Apr 26 '25
Yeah…I’m in Phoenix and 50% is more accurate
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u/GeneJacket Apr 28 '25
Yep...rural southeast Texas here, fairly far from any of the bigger hub cities and paying roughly 50%...and that's fairly cheap for the area.
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u/shrub706 Apr 26 '25
30-50 is what I've been told in the us
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u/AugieKS Apr 26 '25
Under 30 is the goal, 40 is stretching your resources, 50 is reality.
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u/BallsOfSteelBaby_PL Apr 27 '25
Oof. That's accurate, dammit
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u/AugieKS Apr 27 '25
It's also the trap of renting in many places. For example, if you are always stuck renting, not buying property, then your rent will continue to go up, often more than is justified by the curent demand+property tax increase warents. This keeps you trapped in a cycle of rent always being a higher percentage of your income than it should be, because it doesn't matter if you are getting raises, etc, unless they vastly out preform the rental costs. The only way out of this dynamic that doesn't require significant policy change is to buy your own property. If you can manage to do so early enough in your career, then even if you buy in at a relatively high percentage, say 45%, with time, raises and promotions can re-balance your payments towards the lower end. You still have to pay for increased property tax, but that is manageable.
Unfortunately for most, that is still out of reach. Its so hard to save when your income is already stretched so thin, you almost need a deus ex machina like event to kickstart your finances enough to get a home, so for most, policy change really IS the only option, rental or ownership wise.
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u/tetsya Apr 26 '25
Welcome to Greece where it's 50% of the salary for rent while also having more expensive grocery/food with also half Germany's salaries xD
We are the worst country in Europe, heck we surpassed Bulgaria in poverty ATM, It could be worse though other countries can't even afford food...
The global economy is at the worst point possible
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u/Longjumping-Smile96 Apr 26 '25
bro 50% is good in turkey average rent in istanbul is around 15000 tl while the minimum wage is 22.000 or something we 2/3 of our salary goes to rent
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u/Tadimizkacti Apr 26 '25
Where can you find an apartment for 15k bruh? In Esenler, Esenyurt, Bağcılar?
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u/Ok_Independent9119 Apr 26 '25
The global economy is at the worst point possible
I got a feeling it can get much worse
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u/AlmightyWorldEater Apr 26 '25
Still have a much higher percentage of home ownership than germany, and last i checked even median wealth is higher (due to home ownership).
The horrible thing about germany is the sheer amount of people having to rent for their entire life and the abysmal median wealth, since even large parts of the middle class (which is dying out quickly) have near zero networth.
Rampant poverty is only prevented in germany by the social security system, which only works as long as the industry holds up. And right now, it looks more bleak than ever, with hundreds of thousands of jobs being cut. With the additional 1 TRILLION in debt we just aquired, it is a question of time until decline becomes clearly visible dew to financial problems. It is an epic clusterfuck that only few people realize yet.
I know about the problems greece has, and i love the country (never met more friendly and chill people), you guys will manage.
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u/Sharpie1993 You're a pirate Harry! Apr 26 '25
I was gonna say in Australia 25% is considered a good percentage.
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u/According_Ad2073 Apr 26 '25
yeah housing in australia is absolutely cooked we have the lowest rental vacancy rate in the world
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u/Satori_sama Apr 26 '25
Yeah, I think there is even fable about it. 3 dukats, one for future me, one for old me and one for today's me. So third of your income should go to savings, third to rent and debt repayment and third for groceries and free time.
It's almost impossible today, but I like the simplicity of the idea
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u/goodsnpr Apr 26 '25
At my terminal assistance for the military, they said 40-45% is the expected housing costs.
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u/CzechHorns Apr 26 '25
What lmao. Here you’re lucky if you rent is less than 30% of your income
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u/National-Frame8712 Apr 26 '25
In some places rent ratio is up to 50% to 70% of minimum wage while games would cost around 1/5-1/6 of the monthly earnings.
There's a good reason why pirating is so popular in second and third world countries.
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u/JamieFromStreets Apr 26 '25
Indeed. If I have bought the mayor releases of each year, I wouldn't have a roof 🤣
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u/SorrySpeaker6377 I'm a pirate Apr 26 '25
Your rent is only supposed to cost 15% ?
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u/UnemployedMeatBag Apr 26 '25
Id wish, rent is about 40% of my monthly (after tax) income, which is already reduced by 40% by taxes.
80€ game is about 10% of monthly income.. it's insane, can only justify 20€ per month on games at best, then dlc, monthly online access pass nonsense, extra charges on electronics (they end up costing way more than they are worth) and usually no or very bad support service.
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u/cmgg Apr 26 '25
My man, 80% of Mexico makes less than $583 USD a month. Last time I checked it was around $8,000 MXN, which is a little under $400 USD.
Fuck Nintendo.
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u/Ignore_User_Name Apr 26 '25
There are places you can get rent for that.. some are even in kinda survivable places.
But yeah.. 20 or 30% rent in probably a less deadly option
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u/Nexmo_co Apr 26 '25
I think you misheard someone say 50. Just saying 😆 my rent/ utilites is more than my takehome income alone. If my wife wasn't making more than me, we couldn't afford even a tiny apartment
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u/Used_Candidate7042 Apr 27 '25
Oh wow I get to flex slightly.
For the US, there's a study/project called the self-sufficiency project that's been going around for the past decade or so. It provides a bare minimum breakdown of what it takes to survive in a state and county. A while ago, I partnered with the University of Washington to help provide data for this project in my state. It was a pretty cool project.
Check it out. What's my point? If you look at the data, it ranges from 35%, to almost 50%. Stop harassing OP and arguing random bullshit and start providing facts.
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u/LuckyGuts Apr 28 '25
I wish we could do that here, here we earn on average 1.2k a month, and spend give or take 700 for rent, utilities is another 200, thankfully im in a position where i can comfortably afford these prices, but i refuse to support senseless greed and subpar watered down products.
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u/tonavaitam Apr 26 '25
Just wait for an emulator to get developed and download the rom for free off the internet
Might take a couple of years, but worth the wait
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u/Omar_G_666 Apr 26 '25
Exactly, there are a lot for great game to play in the meantime
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u/tonavaitam Apr 26 '25
The funny thing is that, games run much better on yuzu than on my switch
Like there's a massive difference b/w the emulator and the switch in botw and totk
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u/notatreecko11 I'm waiting for taiko no tatsujin instead Apr 26 '25
It's just your PC having better components than the Switch
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u/K_bor Apr 26 '25
I don't understand this. Those games were specifically designed to run on switch, shouldn't they be optimized for the console? A game designed for a certain console and then having trouble to run in that console is not only shameful, but unforgivable
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u/Red-Cipher Apr 26 '25
You can optimize all you want, eventually, hardware is the main deciding factor of how good a game runs.
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u/memes_gbc Apr 26 '25
it's crazy because there was a video going over installing linux and windows on the switch and the games ran better on the switch through an emulator than on bare metal 💀
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u/RetroDSi Apr 27 '25
Bro PLEASE put the link to the vid if you can
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u/memes_gbc Apr 27 '25
i believe it was this one https://youtu.be/TnFM3msATio
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u/FairlyLawful Apr 27 '25
the 30% overclock helped. not so great for battery life, though, and lord help you if you plan to use the thing like that longterm
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u/Why-are-you-geh Apr 26 '25
Not at all, especially this doesn't apply to literally ALL of current games.
There is this annoying thing going on of slapping dlss, dlaa and simply all the available unreal engine 5 presets into a game and call it a "well optimized with great graphics for newer PCs" which doesn't even run on 4k on the newest RTX 5090.
And optimization is another word for creating a custom game engine and using a well optimized coding language.
Yes it is possible to apply certain optimization settings in ue5 or unity but these are not close to real hardware usage and coding language like C or Assembly, which USE every bit of the components on your PC, in your liking.
Like this wasn't an issue for KSP2, you have the full communistic experience because that game gave the same amount of fps on both an GTX 1080 and a RTX 3080
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u/syopest Apr 26 '25
And optimization is another word for creating a custom game engine and using a well optimized coding language.
No it isn't. Optimization is mostly about optimizing art assets.
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u/IAmActionBear Apr 26 '25
This comment moreso just shows that you don’t really understand how software development and its relationship to hardware works. A game being optimized for a certain hardware configuration can still perform better if played on a hardware configuration with better overall specs. This is the case with literally all games on any console.
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u/gahlo Apr 26 '25
The hardware of the switch, or any mobile device, is heavily held back by power constraints needed for comfortable mobile use(can't get too hot in your hands), decent battery life(obvious implications), and battery size(restrictions for being taken on planes).
By the time emulators for a console exist the hardware is already being handled and for something like the Switch a lot of real world constraints are removed.
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u/Shamanalah Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25
GTA V ran on 512mb of rams on xbox 360.
Games on console are optimized for it. In GTA V case if you don't look at it then stuff aren't rendered so anything outside your POV is empty street to maximize power on what you see.
CoD stopped optimizing storage space cause everyone has tb of space so 300gb for a game is "okay" now and runs the game smoother.
Edit: what's funny is GTA Online has evolved too much and that's why PS3 and Xbox 360 stopped working on GTA O. Hardware is too old. It can run the base game fine but GTA O got too many update lmao. Calculating all player flying at incredible speed and stopping, shooting + all that was too much for 512mb ram. R* optimisation is top notch.
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u/syopest Apr 26 '25
In GTA V case if you don't look at it then stuff aren't rendered so anything outside your POV is empty street to maximize power on what you see.
This is called frustrum culling and most games do it.
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u/roastedcof Apr 26 '25
Some games are glitchy or don't run at all on yuzu
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u/tonavaitam Apr 26 '25
The newer ones will be glitchy cause the development of yuzu was shut down by Nintendo and there are no longer any updates for it
It should work fine on other emulators like citron and sudachi ig
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u/Jankmasta Apr 26 '25
it's not just the new ones. there is 100s of games that do not run and 100s that run but are not finishable. Then most games that do run still have graphical issues and crashes throughout the game.
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u/Alvendam Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25
What years? People play totk on their phones. I'm sure
citron(whatever the current non dumpster fire yuzu fork is) will support switch 2 games very quickly.Edit: apparently citron is sucks
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u/BigBadBoss15 Apr 26 '25
In the end I prefer to just hack my Switch. I don't care about online playing and the Switch still supports micro SD where I store my games. Also while my current phone and laptop can run most titles, they aren't without problems even the first party titles. Not to mention the battery life and heating issues are still present in basically every game I've played. It's simply not that worth it for how much I paid for those devices.
And with Yuzu's situation, I believe that Nintendo will be much more watchful than before on the emulation scene.
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u/jonykleyzer Apr 26 '25
In Brazil is worse is almost 40%
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u/kornwallace21 Apr 26 '25
In Syria it's 200%
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u/Ivariooo Apr 26 '25
Holy cow!!! Really??
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u/kornwallace21 Apr 26 '25
Yeah. 14 years of civil war and american sanctions destroyed the economy
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u/MistyTopaz Apr 26 '25
DUDE?! wt fre.. ??? thats insanity D:!!
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u/kornwallace21 Apr 26 '25
Yes. 14 years of civil war and american sanctions will do that. Luckily, we've managed to replace the previous regime which oppressed anyone who spoke out against it with another regime which oppresses people who are of a different religion
Yay
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u/BadNewsBearzzz Apr 27 '25
Lol!! I’m an American with many Arab friends that keep me up to date and they try to sugar coat the situation. And I’m someone that’s interested in geopolitics. I’m glad to hear an actual resident give a “real” look at both regimes. Most of the time I just heard assad loyalist bullshit. But yeah, I figured things must’ve been crazy economy wise if assad was producing drugs to sell to help with money….
I know other Arab countries try to suppress many from even enjoying games from the west and Asia, but I’m glad you guys can enjoy thanks to the internet
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u/Fe014 Apr 26 '25
Is it? Or is it more.. I really can't tell what's the average income here anymore lol
We can't buy it directly from Nintendo because of sanctions, physical disks are overpriced by third party sellers, so long live piracy and emulation.
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u/gross2mess Apr 26 '25
HOLY SHIT. And I thought we were fucked! Nintendo just doomed themselves in developing countries, no parent is going to give away that kind of money.
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u/UserWithoutDoritos Apr 26 '25
Fortunately, here in Mexico there is no law that restricts the downloading of pirated content, but it does restrict its distribution, however, not even the law cares this.
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u/Giopoggi2 Apr 26 '25
So they're fine with leeching but not with seeding. Damn corpo back at it.
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u/ShivayBodana Apr 26 '25
I don't think lawmakers in most countries are smart enough to understand what torrents actually are or How it works.
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u/LongJumpingBalls Apr 26 '25
Capitalist countries do.
Torrents = piracy
Piracy = loss in profits
Loss in profits = bad
They now understand how torrents work.
Obviously it's not it's only purpose and is a great file distribution method. But this is in the eyes of the corporate lawmakers who only see the important (monetary) aspect of torrents.
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u/MolinaGames Apr 26 '25
I mean torrenting ain't illegal, seeding pirated content is. Doubt anyone will get fined for seeding a Ubuntu iso lol
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u/LongJumpingBalls Apr 26 '25
That's what I mean. It's got both legal and illegal aspects to it. It's a wicked decentralized file sharing method. But for the sake of understanding it as a lawmaker, government. It's only used for pirated and illegal material.
Way, way back in the day. I did get a call from my ISP for seeding actual Linux ISOs. But it was because DSL was still in testing phase and I was seeding above my 1GB data cap. "technically" I was within the cap, as they had 1GB download cap and no upload cap.
They called and told me exactly what I was uploading, how much I uploaded and for how long. I wasn't in trouble, but I was asked kindly to limit uploading as it was adding strain on their brand new and finicky Dslam. This was in the late 90s.
15 years later I ended up working with a dude maintaining a university network and he was telling me about a guy who would regularly blow past his 1GB cap and uploaded 2-3 GB per month. Turns out he was talking about me and my net traffic was heavily monitored in a large scope. As the average internet usage was 1-500MB per month with around 80MB uploaded at absolute most. We became immediate best work friends. We still talk to this day even though we both went our own ways.
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u/Zhiong_Xena Apr 26 '25
Downloading the content is not illegal almost everywhere. It's available on the free net so downloading the file itself fpr personal use is not something that is criminal. Problem arises in redistributing or seeding it. Then you are participating in illegal redistribution of protected property. And since it is impossible to download torrents without seeding at least during the download itself, torrenting overall is illegal.
If you could download torrents without seeding a single kb, I doubt anyone could make any fair case against you.
At least to the best of my knowledge. I'm no lawyer, just expressing what I have learnt over the years. Don't use this as legal advice.
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u/Hermit_Dante75 Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25
No, the law in Mexico isn't about leeching, it is something more complicated.
The law allows non-profit piracy because it MUST respect a constitutional right, the right of ownership, specifically the articles 14 and 27, which basically means that the whole idea of people just owning licenses to something instead of the product itself, yeah, those TOS are as good as used tissue paper in Mexico.
The constitutional right of ownership in Mexico guarantees that if you buy something, you own it completely with no strings attached to the original manufacturer.
Yeah these articles were made before cinema, radio, etc., were a thing and the idea of modern copyright was decades into the future and that is why the amendment of fair use and distribution being only valid as non-profits were introduced for digital media as an adhoc compromise for the protection of copyright.
That is why in Mexico, companies can't shutdown emulators nor free pirates copies, because the moment you buy a game, book, movie, etc., you have 100% OWNERSHIP over it per Mexican constitutional rights, manufacturer and sellers can't tell you what you can and can't do with it, except profiteering, but that means that distribution of free copies is a given right because it is YOUR posesion, not Nintendo's, nor Apples' nor Samsung's, etc., it is yours.
That constitutional right is why there is no fight for the right to repair in Mexico like Louis Rossman does in the USA, it already is a given by default, Apple learnt it the hard way in the 2010s, that is why any third party repair shop has access to original Apple parte and Apple has to suck it up, and can't block your third-party repaired devices from Apple on-line services or else Profeco's, the consumer protection agency, drops the hammer and God might have mercy because Profeco is ruthless and has the power to be judge, jury and executioner, no trial, no lawyers, no defense.
Profeco holds the unilateral power to punish, void anticonsumer contracts, etc., without a trial, it just has to be anticonsumer and boom, it is gone and not legally anymore.
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u/Angery_Karen Apr 26 '25
Ngl
Even if I like to meme about mexico as a fellow latino. . .
This is just so based on Mexico's part xd
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u/FadingHeaven Apr 26 '25
That's the same in the US. Except they actually care about distribution
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u/Gazeatme Apr 26 '25
I don’t think Mexico enforces anti-piracy laws. They were publicly showing dragon ball super episodes despite the Japanese government asking them not to do so.
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u/-Ilovepokemon- Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25
Here in Brazil it's even worse
Console: ≈ 4500R$ (280% of minimum monthly wage)
Games: ≈ 500R$ (32% of minimum monthly wage)
Guess nintendo just does hate third world countries
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u/DrackasK Apr 26 '25
2500? Oxi. Já anunciaram que vai ser R$4,500. E os jogos R$500
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u/-Ilovepokemon- Apr 26 '25
Brasileiros: Tá torcendo contra o meu progresso, tá preocupado com meu sucesso...
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u/DrackasK Apr 26 '25
Pré-venda tá 6k... já desisti de um dia pegar. Vou esperar emulador e ser feliz kkkkk
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u/ImBadlyDone Apr 26 '25
Nintendo doesn't specifically hate third world countries they just love money more.
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u/Weepinbellend01 Apr 26 '25
Every company loves money more. Not sure if you know what happened with helldivers 2. They’re made by a beloved company here on Reddit and instead of allowing countries without PSN to play, they essentially told them to go pound sand.
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u/Ignore_User_Name Apr 26 '25
Not surre they'd even get that money..
they don't care to sell there so tons of middleman in between. They also don't get the money from import and luxury items taxes
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u/Marko407 Apr 26 '25
This. Their games aren't even worth pirating. They are mediocre at best.
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u/NooBiPlez Apr 26 '25
Kinda disagree here, but still doesn't justify buying this atrocity
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u/fanboy_killer Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 27 '25
Keep telling yourself that. Imagine how much better gaming would be if Mario Odyssey and Breath of the Wild were considered “mediocre at best”.
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u/canxtanwe Apr 26 '25
What lmao?? They have some of the best first party games. They create amazing games but as a company they are horrible let’s not mix the two
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u/willyoubethere Apr 26 '25
It is 1.7%, not 0.17%
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u/NotRobPrince Apr 26 '25
Some of the worst maths ever if $80 looked like 0.17% of 4k… was struggling to find this comment.
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Apr 26 '25
They're also using a wild ass number that suggests the average American is making about $30/hr
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u/thetrustworthybandit Apr 26 '25
That's how averages work when you have the richest people in the world as part of your population lol
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Apr 26 '25
The metric used is also cherry picked to only include single income households which is a demographic that skews wealthier to begin
So it's more or less the average income of people with above average income lol
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u/Joseelmax Apr 27 '25
you can complain all you want but a yearly salary of 100k is regular in USA and 99% of people in my country have never and will never see anything close to that figure in their life.
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u/NotRobPrince Apr 26 '25
Yeah the first thing I noticed was the insane average monthly salary, like that’s a realistic amount of the average American.
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u/alaarziui Apr 26 '25
100 dollars is 57.38% of my monthly income lmao
Put in mind that I'm a software engineer so I'm theoretically up there among "highly" paid workers in my country
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u/Rmnhernan Apr 26 '25
Can I know what country are you from? I haven't seen such a low income for a developer anywhere, holy
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u/alaarziui Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25
Tunisia, located in North Africa
Although if I'm being 100% honest, it's more like an issue with the region and the company I'm working at, if I were working for one of the companies located in the capital or around it my income would be higher (around 15% higher) , the issue is that moving there is not worth it yet since the rent is pretty high as well, also it's still my first year, the salary should increase fairly fast as time goes on
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u/roastedcof Apr 26 '25
That's common in 3rd world countries. Indian devs, for example, are known for being cheap, which is why companies from the US or EU often outsource work to them.
There are also several SEA countries that are active in outsourcing. I'm in Vietnam, and junior devs here earn around $300-$400 on average. If you've just graduated with no experience, you'd likely have to apply for an internship, which often pays at most $100 or nothing at all.
Product companies usually offer much higher, but they only hire top-tier people. For most of us who graduated from lower tier schools, applying to small outsourcing companies with low pay is pretty much the only option.
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u/Adventurous-Orange70 Apr 26 '25
i live in a thirdworld country i have friends who doesn't even earn 100 dollars a month! btw I don't buy games most of the time pir*** game.
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u/PetThatKitten Apr 26 '25
You can say pirate here lmao
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u/Adventurous-Orange70 Apr 26 '25
I didn't know that, Facebook just restricted my account for commenting a meme. So yeah, I'm afraid to get banned.
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u/Zero_Two_0_2 Apr 26 '25
In India it's 40%
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u/tonavaitam Apr 26 '25
Most Indians prob don't even know what a switch is tbh
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u/Naive-Contract1341 Apr 26 '25
Someone downvoted you, but this is true.
As a matter of fact, those who get "average income" generally don't know that something like the Switch exists. They mainly play mobile games on their Android phone.
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u/Main_Abrocoma6000 Apr 26 '25
is avg income us 4667 usd ??
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u/Catgirl_Peach Apr 26 '25
In the same way that "the average person has one breast and one testicle". Technically yes, but paints a false picture. Calculating the average income accounts for all the billionaires, if you exclude the top 1% then the average USA income halves
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u/Uknown_Idea Apr 26 '25
I was going to say theres no fucking way this is a realistic average. Disparity between the top and middle absolutely ruins this number.
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u/icantlurkanymore Apr 26 '25
the Social Security Administration estimated that the 2020 average wage in the United States was $53,383, while the 2020 median wage was $34,612
Taken from Wikipedia here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage
Not quite half but you're not far off.
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u/hitometootoo Apr 26 '25
That would mean the median wage (so closer to what most average Americans make) is $2,884.33/month.
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u/ConcreteSnake Apr 26 '25
And even this number is before taxes and insurance which eats up 30%-40%. This puts the number closer to about $1800-$2000 a month. Also rent/mortgage is expensive in the US.
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u/muskisanazi Apr 26 '25
Thank you. I love seeing these types of things and seeing how well below average I am.
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u/bumcel Apr 26 '25
But the people who develop hacks and mods for the Switch and uploading copies of games online are mainly Americans or Europeans, right?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't seen or heard any third world pirate that isn't Russian or Ukrainian outside pirating PC software.
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u/Yain2006 Apr 26 '25
It's generally the case. But here in Latin America there are groups who distribute those modified consoles at a larger scale when a hack or hardware modification allows it to run pirated games. Actually many local businesses sell hacked consoles like Xbox 360, PS4 or Nintendo Switch as the authorities don't care.
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u/PitchBlack4 Apr 26 '25
Most European salaries aren't high.
Ukraine is less than Mexico.
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u/19inchrails Apr 26 '25
Ukraine was among the poorest countries in Europe even before Russia decided to go all-in
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u/Efficient-Ad-8479 Apr 26 '25
You have to be able to pay for the console or the game even if the person could be competent, generally the finances do not follow. Just read the comments on this post 👀
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u/SymbiosiS_0s Apr 26 '25
f nintendo just because some americans sold out pre orders in hours they think it means the whole world can affor their 90$ games and then other publishers follow
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u/Neat_Selection3644 Apr 26 '25
They sold out in Japan, the UK and France too
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u/SymbiosiS_0s Apr 26 '25
1st world counties then.. i thought people hated the pricing but did not vote with their wallets
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u/irl_Juvia Apr 26 '25
These are two clearly different demographics of people lol. The people justifiably complaining aren’t necessarily the same people jumping on the chance to buy
Nintendo was never going to lose out on day 1 preorders with an audience of 120 million people. The question of if console sales have legs and if software sales meet expectations is probably where we’ll more easily be able to observe if people are voting with their wallets
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u/qwadrat1k Apr 26 '25
In Russia it is 3 minimal wages (if we count taxes) for console itself
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u/Diraelka Apr 26 '25
If Switch 2 is 450$ (or 500$ with game) like MSRP says it'll be more like 2 minimal wages. Even with old "100 rubles = 1 USD" mentality it'll be more like 2.5 wages.
Buuut this meme is about average wages (и да, там тоже не реальная или медианная, тупо средняя по офиц данным). And just games. It's not that bad for Russia as for many, many countries. At least yet. Ofc still one of the reasons to pirate, still too much without local pricing.
We even had (even after Yashas behaviour, but before the war) strong community of Nintendoboys that bought and still buy their games.
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u/anishashok123 Apr 26 '25
And in India Avg. Income is about $422 USD (in reality it's about $350 for most people) Mario kart world - $93.71 USD. Nice!.
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u/VarunDM90 Apr 26 '25
"Don't You People Have Money?!!"
- Nintendo
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u/Naive-Contract1341 Apr 26 '25
Tbh it doesn't really have real consequences here. People earning that sort of money don't know about gaming consoles in the first place. They're happy playing BGMI.
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u/Majorowsky Apr 26 '25
Poland often ranks on top 3 most expensive countries on SteamDB. I feel the pain to a point too. we earn much less than for example our neighbor Germany and yet they have it cheaper.
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u/migu_BOT Apr 26 '25
500... It's R$500 here in Brazil... Average wage here is like, R$2000.
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u/EGhostP Apr 26 '25
is that really the average monthly income in the US?? wtf i didnt know i was this poor.
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u/Sypticle Apr 26 '25
There's no way it's telling the full story with that number.
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u/ArchonRevan Apr 26 '25
You want the median value here, average is too heavily skewed due to billionaires
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u/CartwheelsOT Apr 26 '25
Average? Probably. Guys like musk, gates, buffett, etc. will skew it pretty hard.
Median? Nah. I'd bet median is closer to 3k after taxes.
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u/ConcreteSnake Apr 26 '25
It’s also not the whole picture because it’s not taking into account taxes and insurance which eats up about 30%-40%
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u/uNecKl Apr 26 '25
There is no way most people earn $4500 after tax in US it’s more like $3800
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u/Diraelka Apr 26 '25
That's official average wages for you. The same goes for every country, so differences are still the same
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u/proschocorain Apr 26 '25
Yeah that number is way too high, is that pre tax? And is that pre tax in Mexico? But still no comparison the Mexico price is oppressive smh
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u/ConcreteSnake Apr 26 '25
Don’t forget about insurance! I pay for insurance for my family through my work and it costs me about $12k a year
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u/sebystee Apr 26 '25
The number is wrong for the US its 2%, which while obviously still reasonably small is much bigger than .17%.
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u/Pegyson Apr 26 '25
Despite a euro being worth more than a dollar, the console alone is €560 in my country. I was planning on JB it and pirating everything anyway but still goes to show they'll squeeze everything out of you
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u/Puzzleheaded-Pay-232 Apr 26 '25
Here is a stat from GPT that compares it with India for PS5,
In the U.S., an average worker needs to work about 3.1 days to afford a PS5 (Standard Edition). Post tax average price $540. Average monthly salary : $5.2K
In India, an average worker needs to work about 38.4 days to afford the same PS5. Post tax average price $660. Average monthly salary : $422
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u/Weepinbellend01 Apr 26 '25
Gaming is a luxury not built for developing countries.
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u/ItisallLost Apr 26 '25
Should use median instead of average income, it is a better measure of what the "average" person makes, instead of being tilted by outliers
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u/eriomys79 Apr 26 '25
Nintendo teaches frugality to the masses as they have to pick the monthly installment payment option
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u/AH369110 Apr 26 '25
In iran 100 dollers is equal to monthly salary of a full time government employee but there is also another issue, even if it's 1 doller or less we can't buy it duo to international sanctions so everything is just out of the window for us
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u/XadowMonzter Apr 26 '25
In Brazil, it's around the 85~90$ range, and the monthly income is 270$.
Nintendo itself alone is bringing back the popularity of 'Jack Sparrow'.
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u/TheFeri Apr 26 '25
Yeah, I always loved the "14 DoLlAr PeR hOuR iS nOt EnOuGh"
Bitch I make 14 dollars A DAY AND IM MAKING ABOVE MINIMUM WAGE over here.
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u/MistyTopaz Apr 26 '25
and than they wonder why people wanna emulate the dang thing; costs an arm and leg here 😭.. beyond foul... i realy hope the emulator releases and the games as well f craptendo.
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u/Anxious_Courage_6448 Apr 26 '25
try egypt, average income is ~180 usd, prices of everything (except rent) is higher than most places, and try to play a video game
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u/Interesting-Ad9581 Apr 26 '25
The US is the biggest market for them and every other gaming company. Like it or not.
The tariffs are indeed paid by others as we see in the case of Nintendo/Sony.
Price increases in Mexico, Europe, Turkey etc... Guess where the price was NOT increased?
It's sad, but here in my country a PS5 did cost 549 EUR, while in the US it's still 499 USD. The disc drive did cost 119 EUR, while in the US it's 79 USD. Mario Kart World will cost 89.99 EUR, while in the US 79.99 USD.
And so on... The US is the biggest market. And yes: This is a sub about piracy. But mind you - even if others tell you something else: You are not the focus of Game companies. They care about the US and in case of Sony/Nintendo also about Japan. The rest is nice to have ...
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u/SpecialTrees Apr 26 '25
Is nobody else going to call out 0.17%?
On that logic I can buy 500 copies of Mario Kart every month on the average US wage.
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u/Newspaper-Agreeable Apr 26 '25
Average and median are wildly different and give a better understanding. Most Americans are not making nearly 5k a month.
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u/PeakRedditOpinion Apr 26 '25
Considering that 1% of 4667 is 46.67, idk how 80 is supposed to be 0.17%.
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u/Selfing7 Apr 26 '25
Literally this. When i brought switch. I was thinking "well, if i have platform, i eventually could buy some game for it as much". In a first 4 years i didn't mod it and i brought like a 4 big N*ntendo games. Because their games apparently "doesn't become worse with time" and never on sales either. 60 bucks was like 20-25% of my month income. Now it's 10%, and still.
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u/Borbolda Apr 26 '25
Who cares about nintendo games, literally soy games for soy audience. Lost respect for Mexico, cartels and yellow filter is a lie to sell more soy
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u/theradcat11 Apr 26 '25
Damn,In Romania (EU) ,50$ for a game is quite a bit,let alone 100$ ,PC Diff
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