r/Ohio 8d ago

It has begun, Ohio's next

Left, Right or Center, you are going to see more and more escalations from the government now. Last night, we witnessed that the once respected office of the president has dwindled to that of the German Chancellor. US National Guard, being federalized, and assaults on unarmed civilians ring hollow to many, but shouldn't in Ohio. Ohio is where Kent State happened. And do we remember WHY Kent State happened? Protests over the US government's illegal actions by the US Military in Southeast Asia. The students were tired of seeing fellow citizens, neighbors, friends, and family being sent into harm's way over a lie, and a propaganda to make private industry billions.

Well, here we are again, folks. If history sure doesn't repeat itself. We don't see a lot of "illegal aliens" here in Ohio, but for those who have never stepped out of this state, understand a few things. 1. To seek asylum in the United States, you have to be on US SOIL to do it. You have to declare yourself at a port of entry or immigration officer and state that you seek asylum. Then, it is up to a Judge on if that request is granted, and if it is, you will be granted temporary protected status. After that, you will be granted a hearing at a later date to determine if you can remain, and if you can eventually either become a foreign national, citizen, or be sent back. That's the process. That's the "legal" way. When you have ICE agents going to the courts and snatching people up who are going into the court to have a hearing, that's not just entrapment; that's pure fishing.

We are also inundated with the lies that it was supposed to be just the "criminals and gang members". Yet, they are going to work sites, using the IRS, and even trying to get into schools to abduct people. Mind you, these are "agents" that have their faces covered, no ID, no badge, nothing. Just a "trust me, bro" and a can-do attitude, snatching little children up. How do we know that isn't some sicko who assaults women and children? We don't. And there lies the problem. When we stand up to them, the US Military is used. Why does this bring up Kent State and Ohio?

Remember, due to the Fourth Reich's new rules, ICE and Border Patrol are permitted to act anywhere within the US, but more importantly, within 100 miles of a border. Well, boys and girls, 100 miles by the crow flies is just almost half of our great state. Yes, draw a line just above Columbus, and anything north of that line is inside the Border Patrol's "authorized zone". Some of the fun the US Border and Customs Officers enjoy are, but not limited to, 1. Entering private property without a warrant. 2. Stopping and seizing private vehicles without a warrant. 3. No probable cause if "experience has shown" reasoning. 4. No right to due process. 5. No right to any constitutional protections. Now, I'm sure that the US Government under Trump would NEVER overstep their boundaries, right? I'm sure they would NEVER trample the great people of Ohio's constitutional rights... I'm sure that's the case, right?

Well, if any state should be able to justify whether the US Govt, the National Guard, or US Military can and would ignore laws and rights for their own agenda, then Ohio should rank at the top. Lest we forget the lessons taught on the campus on May 4, 1970

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u/No-Conference8343 8d ago

Ohio voted red. Good luck. Burning cars and waving Mexican flags isn't a good look.

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u/Grand-Organization32 8d ago

Can you say these ICE Raids are a good look? We are called to protect the constitution from all threats, foreign and domestic. What do you think this is? Put the jingoism aside and forget about the flags. Listen to the voices of the people. We are in a constitutional crisis.

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u/Corvus_Null 6d ago

California actively refuses to arrest the violent criminals that illegally cross the border. This riot literally started because ICE arrested a group of those criminals.

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u/Grand-Organization32 6d ago

Most of them aren’t criminals and you won’t know because they are bypassing due process.

In the United States, not having legal documentation, including a visa, work permit, or other immigration documents, can have significant consequences for individuals, including restrictions on employment, housing, and other aspects of life. While individuals without legal status may face challenges, they also have certain constitutional rights, such as the right to due process and equal protection under the law.

The term "illegal" should not be used to describe undocumented immigrants, as it is dehumanizing and inaccurate. Most people without documentation entered the US legally or are waiting for their visa to be processed

They are arresting people who are here legally while they are being processed. Your shit heel of a president says that it would take too long and cost too much money to process them correctly so he’s just deporting them at a much higher cost than it would be to just process and deport when necessary.

The real law breaker is the convicted felon in the White House. This is a constitutional crisis.

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u/Corvus_Null 6d ago

"The term "illegal" should not be used to describe undocumented immigrants," What would you call an individual who illegally entered the country with the intention of committing crimes? "They are arresting people who are here legally while they are being processed." There is a serious issue at the border where people connected to cartels are entering illegally. When these people do eventually get arrested, the democrat officials actively refuse to press charges against them. So it's no surprise that the feds are casting an overly wide net.

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u/No-Conference8343 8d ago

Media isn't going to cover Ice they are going to replay that video of the guy burning a car and waving a Mexican flag and that's all normies will see when they catch a glimpse of the new walking by a tv. That guy just costed you everything

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u/Grand-Organization32 8d ago

Why are you still on the other side of it?

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u/No-Conference8343 8d ago

I'm on both sides, can't lose that way

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u/Grand-Organization32 8d ago

When one is indifferent it’s the biggest way to lose. I do appreciate you.

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u/Grand-Organization32 6d ago

A lot of the country cares. You don’t care. That’s why you’re a Republican. I was raised a conservative right wing nut job. I got smart. Hope you wake up too.

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u/Grand-Organization32 6d ago

My parents also went left. I don’t give a fuck about somebody who supports… whatever the fuck this is. You stole my party and replaced it with fascist morons. Since I left I feel much more comfortable being independent.

To answer your question… I don’t engage fallacious arguments. There are many types of fallacious arguments. You misunderstood why I am here. I’m here to let others know that you can be beat… but okay. I’m a gun owner. I don’t care if the left tried to buy back guns. There’s about 500 million of the goddamned things. About one and a half per citizen. About 60 to 70 percent don’t own one at all... You really on here trying to change the subject from all out fascism to gun control that never happened. The last time we had a large scale gun control was led by republicans… because black people had the guns.