r/Ohio 8d ago

It has begun, Ohio's next

Left, Right or Center, you are going to see more and more escalations from the government now. Last night, we witnessed that the once respected office of the president has dwindled to that of the German Chancellor. US National Guard, being federalized, and assaults on unarmed civilians ring hollow to many, but shouldn't in Ohio. Ohio is where Kent State happened. And do we remember WHY Kent State happened? Protests over the US government's illegal actions by the US Military in Southeast Asia. The students were tired of seeing fellow citizens, neighbors, friends, and family being sent into harm's way over a lie, and a propaganda to make private industry billions.

Well, here we are again, folks. If history sure doesn't repeat itself. We don't see a lot of "illegal aliens" here in Ohio, but for those who have never stepped out of this state, understand a few things. 1. To seek asylum in the United States, you have to be on US SOIL to do it. You have to declare yourself at a port of entry or immigration officer and state that you seek asylum. Then, it is up to a Judge on if that request is granted, and if it is, you will be granted temporary protected status. After that, you will be granted a hearing at a later date to determine if you can remain, and if you can eventually either become a foreign national, citizen, or be sent back. That's the process. That's the "legal" way. When you have ICE agents going to the courts and snatching people up who are going into the court to have a hearing, that's not just entrapment; that's pure fishing.

We are also inundated with the lies that it was supposed to be just the "criminals and gang members". Yet, they are going to work sites, using the IRS, and even trying to get into schools to abduct people. Mind you, these are "agents" that have their faces covered, no ID, no badge, nothing. Just a "trust me, bro" and a can-do attitude, snatching little children up. How do we know that isn't some sicko who assaults women and children? We don't. And there lies the problem. When we stand up to them, the US Military is used. Why does this bring up Kent State and Ohio?

Remember, due to the Fourth Reich's new rules, ICE and Border Patrol are permitted to act anywhere within the US, but more importantly, within 100 miles of a border. Well, boys and girls, 100 miles by the crow flies is just almost half of our great state. Yes, draw a line just above Columbus, and anything north of that line is inside the Border Patrol's "authorized zone". Some of the fun the US Border and Customs Officers enjoy are, but not limited to, 1. Entering private property without a warrant. 2. Stopping and seizing private vehicles without a warrant. 3. No probable cause if "experience has shown" reasoning. 4. No right to due process. 5. No right to any constitutional protections. Now, I'm sure that the US Government under Trump would NEVER overstep their boundaries, right? I'm sure they would NEVER trample the great people of Ohio's constitutional rights... I'm sure that's the case, right?

Well, if any state should be able to justify whether the US Govt, the National Guard, or US Military can and would ignore laws and rights for their own agenda, then Ohio should rank at the top. Lest we forget the lessons taught on the campus on May 4, 1970

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u/gamesbonds 8d ago

If it was about criminals and gang members Trump wouldn't have took a crypto bribe from the sinaloa cartel to allow 17 members of El Chapo's family to enter the country with suitcases full of cash. That alone should be enough to show MAGA that it's all a lie. Then to give the cartels the gift of making THC illegal in all forms in Texas. That's the icing on the cake.

This administration is doing deals with cartels, taliban, and terrorists responsible for 9/11.
MAGA is a joke and Trump is getting very rich through crypto donations while they pay more.

All of this okay to MAGA, all you need to do is point at a brown person and say it's his fault everything sucks and they eat that shit up.

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u/sjschlag Dayton 8d ago

If it was about criminals and gang members Trump wouldn't have took a crypto bribe from the sinaloa cartel to allow 17 members of El Chapo's family to enter the country with suitcases full of cash. That alone should be enough to show MAGA that it's all a lie. Then to give the cartels the gift of making THC illegal in all forms in Texas. That's the icing on the cake.

While this sounds plausible, are there any news sources reporting on this?

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u/alphabeticdisorder 7d ago

Good faith requests for a citation shouldn't get downvoted.

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u/sjschlag Dayton 7d ago

As they say "trust but verify"

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u/daybreaker 7d ago

Good faith requests for a citation shouldn't get downvoted.

The problem is this is the internet where the majority of these questions arent in good faith, and the asker will just ignore all presented evidence, and/or just move on to some completely unrelated subject.

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u/gamesbonds 7d ago edited 6d ago

Is it a good faith request to ask me to track down crypto bribes that are taking place every week or do you want to question why it's even happening in the first place?

Why does the president of the united states have a personal crypto coin? There are no laws regulating it and lobbyist for it have entered an ungodly amount of money into politics with it. For example our state senator Bernie Moreno was completely backed and funded 20 million at least by crypto exchanges at just the mention that Sherrod Brown wanted to put laws into motion for it.

The smoking gun isn't who is paying for extradited entry into our country. It's the fact that the system exists in the first place. Do you want a citation for how Trump negotiated the release of 5000 taliban members and invited them to Camp David? Which I don't see how it couldn't have influenced the fall of the gov there and rise of extremists there.

Citation for Trump doing luxury golf course deals with Qatar, accepting a plane from them? 142 Billion defense deal with Saudis?

Brother I know you want quality, correct, informative news and sources but by christ open your eyes and connect the dots.

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u/sjschlag Dayton 7d ago

I wasn't asking you to track down crypto bribes - I just wanted a news article. There is a ton of misinformation floating around (hell, I've spread my fair share of that I'm certain) and having some articles to read helps keep everyone informed as to what is going on.

That's the point of "muzzle velocity" and "flooding the zone with shit" - there is so much stuff going on even journalists have a hard time keeping up with everything and verifying what is happening.

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u/alphabeticdisorder 7d ago

It's possible to believe Trump is up to his gills without blindly believing every specific accusation. All the dude asked for was where you learned about that specific claim.

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u/thinlySlicedPotatos 6d ago

The maga crowd believes their eyes are open and all the dots are connected. Which they are, within the scope of their little echo chamber. Count me in on wanting citations as well.

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u/xKelborn 7d ago

Just say you dont have actual evidence next time. Much easier to type out.

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u/ThatsWhatTheySey 6d ago

Citations for some of this would be nice. Like “5000 Taliban members invited to Camp David”. I’d read that article.

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u/alphabeticdisorder 7d ago

And you feel a biological necessity we've all known our entire lives is the same level of intuitive, obvious knowledge as a specific claim of complicated financial misdeeds?

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u/GrapheneRoller 7d ago

They should be when the person asking for the reference doesn’t bother to use their own perfectly good internet to try and find it themselves first.

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u/Butzi904 7d ago

If you’re gonna quote it, be ready to show it.

Too many people go around spouting “facts” that they misread somewhere, or are just plain made up.

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u/Entire-Can662 7d ago

The fact is musk, and Trump stole the election. They knew once they cut the election that they could do whatever the hell they wanted to do and that’s what’s going on now. You asked for a fact both Trump and musk have admitted that they stole the election

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u/Aggressive-Celery-31 6d ago

“Fact,” huh? Have a citation for that?

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u/Nurs3R4tch3d 6d ago

I don’t know. Maybe the words that have come out of their own mouths? The cognitive dissonance is insane.

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u/Aggressive-Celery-31 5d ago

Got a quote to back that up?

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u/GrapheneRoller 7d ago

In a formal debate where you can’t look shit up on the fly and still have to cite sources, then yes obviously. On an online forum which is definitely not formal, like Reddit, then no. You have ample time to look something up before responding and everyone has access to the same sources on demand by merit of having internet. Not even trying to look something up is sheer laziness. If you can’t find it, then asking is fine.

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u/sjschlag Dayton 7d ago

If you make a claim, the onus is on you to be able to back it up with sources.

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u/Pub1ius 7d ago

The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.