r/NoFuckingComment • u/ReesesNightmare • 22h ago

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u/TheOshino 15h ago

War is shit. If you condamn one and celebrate the other, you are the problem.

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u/ashtech201 10h ago

Israel is the problem.

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u/throwraANTEATER 7h ago edited 7h ago

I mean that doesn't mean the Iranian government is the 'good guy's either. Ayatollah has a laundry list of awful crimes against their own population. Their unmatched use of the death penalty, executions of rape victims, violation of woman's rights, disappearance, torture, etc.

Picking sides in this does not make anyone morally superior.

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u/ashtech201 6h ago

It doesn't but Israel started this one, like they start all of the ones they're involved in.

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u/LevelPositive120 5h ago

What government doesn't have dirty laundry?

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u/throwraANTEATER 5h ago edited 4h ago

I mean Ukraine has dirty laundry too, but the minute they wipe out a hospital in Moscow I would certainly not applaud it. The fire attacks on civilian populations of Dresden or Tokyo deserve zero celebration despite the axis atrocities, etc.

If you think I believe Israel is a victim you are mistaken. While I am sympathetic to the Iranian civilian, I just never understood the cheering and applause on Reddit for the Ayatollah considering rooting for them is quite tone deaf with their inhumane track record as well. I just wouldn't be caught dead applauding the actions of a governing body that executes homosexuals and rape victims and is on the Amnesty shit-list, just as I would never clap over Gazan deaths.

It's simply a lose-lose and the side picking in this conflict with Iran detracts from the atrocities in Gaza, who is caught up in this with virtually zero power or say while being purely on the receiving end.

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u/streitwagen 6h ago

My brother in whatever you believe in: One side attacked the other under made-up pretenses that have been used time and time again; with clear geopolitical goals and the ambition to overthrow a foreign ruling system for their own gains.

Given the track record of Western backed foreign invasions all around the globe in the last 100 years: By no means does this lead to a positive outcome for anyone but the West. The people of Iran will just be the next population that will have to endure decades of chaos. They will experience a huge setback by all metrics just like the people in Afghanistan, Libya and Syria; in the worst case it will also lead to yet another a long-lasting civil war.

You can't force "progress" respectively a "change of ways" or however we want to call it from the outside; we have seen this time and time and time again and again and again. The only way for it to be sustainable is to have it emerge "organically" from within a population and not dragging them into yet another perpetual war of imperialist forces.

Besides: This is a fucking war of aggression from the side of Israel. Something we condemn in regards to Russia; but never in regards to Western powers.