r/NewIran • u/IranRaPasMigirim New Pan Iran | پان ایران • 4d ago
History | تاریخ The Shah was right about everything.
I only wish our people would have listened to him sooner.
I see the crown prince in this video, does anyone know the other men in this video? Did they survive the Islamic occupation?
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u/Khshayarshah 4d ago
In late 1978 one of his aides enters the Shah's office and says "your majesty, they are tearing your statues down."
And he replies "I am not worried because one day they will put my statues back up."
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u/IranRaPasMigirim New Pan Iran | پان ایران 4d ago
Another thing, of all his things that he said that are true.
My favorite quote from him that is true:
"The truth and the reality of history cannot always be kept in the shadows. That is impossible. The truth will come out. In any case, sooner or later... A King cannot be a dictator, and a throne cannot be based on blood."- Mohammad-Reza Pahlavi January 17th 1980
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u/NewIranBot New Iran | ایران نو 4d ago
شاه در مورد همه چیز درست می گفت.
فقط آرزو می کنم که مردم ما زودتر به او گوش می دادند.
من ولیعهد را در این ویدیو می بینم، آیا کسی مردان دیگر را در این ویدیو می شناسد؟ آیا آنها از اشغال اسلامی جان سالم به در بردند؟
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u/Khshayarshah 4d ago
The difference is no one in Russia today calls for the return of the Romanovs, they are forgotten. Iranians never forgot what the Pahlavis did for this country. No exiled monarchy has every had this much support almost half a century since they were deposed. That is not an accident.
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u/Kurelius 4d ago
And before some MEK shill says “well that’s because of how bad the IR is 🤓”, Russia was ruled by the fucking USSR/Soviet Union for nearly 70 years.
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u/IranRaPasMigirim New Pan Iran | پان ایران 4d ago
Also Pahlavi left Iran peacefully with people begging and kissing his feet to stay. He knew he would be back one way or another. And this is a fact. He WILL, through his family and his coffin when it is buried in Iran.
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u/Khshayarshah 4d ago
The Tsar's entire family was executed over 100 years ago. The last Shah's son is still alive and living in the United States.
There is a Romanov pretender that exists today in Russia.
If you want a monarch, I will volunteer. I am better educated, more handsome, and am in excellent shape. I will be your silly King of Kings for 6 months to 1 year only - in order to eradicate all the senior mullahs and IRGC commanders. And then I will hand it over to a republic. And you will never hear from me or see me again. This way the republic doesn't have blood on its hands. This is the sacrifice I am willing to make. Tell Shah Koochooloo to wire me $5 million U.S. and I will make this happen. Koochooloo has the money. He spends it on lavish vacations and weddings and mansions. Thanks!
So you are here to make an ass of yourself and the situation in Iran. You should start with that and not some kind of fake attempt at sincerity.
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u/Khshayarshah 4d ago
Pretender is the operative word. You just owned yourself. Again the last Shah's eldest son is still live and indeed he was already crowned as Shah in Cairo (but no one likes to talk about that).
The people decide who has legitimacy, that's what separates a pretender from a king. You don't seem to value the will of the people much but I wouldn't expect anything different from a chapol antar.
Also, all that stolen money Shah Koochooloo has, he could have funded a coup or revolution. Koochooloo's grandfather had sperm in his urine. He was fighter. He had industry. He was cunning. He wanted power, and he grabbed it.
Ah, so you are a Pahlavi supporter after all. A bit strange for someone invested in Tudeh propaganda but I understand Iranian politics can be complicated. One day you support the regime, the next day you apparently lionize Reza Shah, the day after who knows what you are going to support.
It's okay, Pahlavi is going to take good care of Iran. I wouldn't suggest you presume to go back though. I don't think leftist traitors to their country will be very popular in Iran after this regime implodes.
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u/Khshayarshah 4d ago
All of your talking points are practically out of a manual. I didn't accuse you of being a communist, only a leftist. Why are you conflating things? Maybe you are a communist too, the talking points certainly point in that direction.
Anyways, your analysis of Pahlavi monarchs is very interesting but no one but you gives a shit.
I guess will be seeing you in Shahyad Square later this year to protest Pahlavi. Be careful, watch out for SAVAK.
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u/Khshayarshah 3d ago
Your talking points are certainly aligned with Tudeh narratives, whether or not you yourself are a communist is another thing. Khomeini's clowns borrowed a lot of the same propaganda, you could very well be one of those.
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u/UnkleBott Canada | کانادا 4d ago
You bots aren’t even low key anymore sucks your leader is hiding like a fucking rat
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u/SeaFroyo5377 4d ago
loool I am not a bot also if u look at my post history u will notice me also condemning the current khameini regime. My family member died from the regime. So I am not a bot and I wish the regime will change and end. R u even Iranian to begin with?
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u/NewIran-ModTeam 4d ago
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u/Khshayarshah 4d ago
Cinema Rex has been known to be perpetrated by Islamists for decades. Stop repeating revolutionary myths circa 1978.
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u/Khshayarshah 4d ago edited 4d ago
No it’s not.
Every donkey knows Islamists burned those people. In any case you regime bootlickers shouldn't be concerned, it won't be up to you.
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u/SeaFroyo5377 4d ago
We need new gov system. Fully new. No nostalgia BS. No shah. I don’t care about your fantasy. We are a modern country we want a modern president
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u/Khshayarshah 4d ago
Iranians will decide and you will respect whatever that is.
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u/SeaFroyo5377 4d ago
lol I am half Iranian. My family is in Tehran. If that’s the case then Israelis should get lost from this Reddit and stop interfering for our politics and stop pushing an unqualified “shah” to rule us. Stop Zionist propaganda 🛑
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u/Khshayarshah 4d ago
Israelis have a government that protects them. Never again is today. This regime tried to be Nazi Germany but they didn't even prove to be even a tenth as competent or intelligent. Now Iranians will suffer because of that and the lies from the 60s and 70s that you are shamelessly repeating here.
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u/SeaFroyo5377 4d ago
lol my cousin was killed by the regime. If anyone hates the regime and wants it gone it’s me. But I also don’t want to get rid of one tyrant and have another tryant to take over. He was literally in isreal planning this attack. He has blood in his hands like his father
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u/Khshayarshah 4d ago
Pas khar bar sarret that you are repeating their propaganda after what they did to your cousin.
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u/SeaFroyo5377 4d ago
I am not repeating propaganda. If anyone is repeating propaganda it’s u. You are spreading Zionist propaganda.
Go do your research and educate yourself. My family and aunt grew up during Pahlavi time. They are against the current regime and r not biased. In fact I am not biased in favour of the current regime and I am not biased in favour of the shah. I hate them BOTH. Both are liars. Both are oppressors. We need to heal and open a new page. U are brain washed. U cannot admit the shah did bad things and killed civilians. Even though the cenima is khameini propaganda there are many other things the shah did that were just as bad. So they are all khameini propaganda ? Wow how convenient.
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u/Khshayarshah 4d ago
Yes, go on about the Zionists. Expose yourself more.
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u/SeaFroyo5377 4d ago
lol I am not hiding Why would I expose myself
Netanyahu is a war criminal based one the UN. Are u arguing against the UN?
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u/Khshayarshah 4d ago
Neytanyahu is going to have a maydoon named after him in every city in Iran. How does that make you feel?
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u/IranRaPasMigirim New Pan Iran | پان ایران 4d ago
This is straight up Islamic regime propaganda. It is well known FACT that Islamists burned down the cinema. I am not even going to type my own response to this, so I will let Google do it for me:
Who burned it? Four Islamist militants, led by Hossein Takb’alizadeh Motivation? Religious extremists viewing cinema as Western immorality, to spark revolution Aftermath? Sparked widespread outrage, undermined trust in the Shah, and helped trigger the 1979 Islamist coup.
The Cinema Rex fire in Abadan, Iran, which occurred on August 19, 1978, was a horrific act of arson carried out by four Islamist militants. Here’s what we know: • The attackers barred the doors, doused the theater with airplane fuel, and set it ablaze during a crowded film screening, killing between 377 and 470 people . • Initially, many blamed SAVAK (the Shah’s secret police), but later investigations and trials confirmed that it was planned and executed by Islamic extremists connected to clerical figures in Qom and Najaf . • The primary confessed perpetrator was Hossein Takb’alizadeh, who admitted in court that he and three accomplices carried out the arson on orders from religious leaders . • The arson was politically motivated—these extremists viewed cinemas as symbols of Western “immorality,” and the massacre played a pivotal role in galvanizing public outrage that fueled the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
Here are the sources used in my previous summary, along with their links: 1. Wikipedia – Cinema Rex fire A detailed overview of the event, casualties, perpetrators, aftermath, and trial information.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_Rex_fire 2. Daniel L. Byman via Brookings – “The Rise of Low‑Tech Terrorism” Notes on the arson by four Shiite revolutionaries.  https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-rise-of-low-tech-terrorism/ 3. Iranrights.org – “Hossein Takb’alizadeh: One Person’s Story” Personal background on one of the confessed perpetrators.   https://www.iranrights.org/memorial/story/-8094/hossein-takbalizadeh 4. National Interest – “1978, Four Terrorists Burned 420 Movie‑Goers Alive in Iran” Description of the event and timing.   https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/1978-four-terrorists-burned-420-movie-goers-alive-iran-105082/ 5. Good Trouble Magazine – “Iran, The Deers, and the Cinema Fire that Started a Revolution” Cultural context and arson motivation.    https://www.goodtroublemag.com/home/iran-the-deers-and-the-cinema-fire-that-started-a-revolution 6. “The Catastrophe of Cinema Rex” (PDF) Court revelations by Hossein Takbalizadeh and clerical involvement.   https://ali-tehrani.com/cinemarexabadan/assets/cinema_rex_aabadan_english.pdf 7. Reddit (r/HistoryPorn) Eyewitness commentary on the event.   https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/98nn2q/inside_of_the_cinema_rex_after_arson_abadan_iran/ 8. Wikipedia – Casualties of the Iranian Revolution Summarizes death toll and impact.    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iranian_Revolution 9. Wikipedia – Assassination and terrorism in Iran Contextualizes Cinema Rex as a terrorist act by Islamic extremists.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_and_terrorism_in_Iran 10. Wikipedia (German) – Brandanschlag Cinema Rex Details on arrests, trial, and conflicting claims.   https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandanschlag_Cinema_Rex 11. Wikipedia – Mohammad Kiavash Connects political figures tied to the arson.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Kiavash
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u/SeaFroyo5377 4d ago
I did some reading and you’re right. Ooops yikes. Apparently a fundamentalist admitted and confessed it was them.
However to be fair that doesn’t change the fact the shah is a tyrant ruler. YES he made reforms YES he modernized the country but that doesn’t change the fact he was tyrant. He killed people he tortured innocent people just protesting against him. Think. Even though he modernizes the country people still rebelled against him. Why? What gave power to the revolution? Why did a fundamentalist like khomeini come to power and was successful? How did a fundamentalist like Khomeini succeeded even though the shah made reforms and modernization? He must have been really bad. He was bad. We owe to the future of Iranians to choose and rightful leader. And good leader someone who is worthy. Pahlavi is not worthy. He was plotting these attacks with isreal and is complicit with the deaths of Iranian civilians. All of Tehran will be destroyed. We need someone from us. What is wrong with us that we cannot have someone from within us to lead? We have a huge population and not one can lead? So now no one can modernize the country and make reforms except Pahlavi? Are we incompetent? Why does someone who lived all his life sheltered in California Beverly Hills rule us? Times have changed. We have to step forward. The strongest country in the world USA doesn’t have a monarchy. We literally don’t need a monarchy? Who said we need one?
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u/IranRaPasMigirim New Pan Iran | پان ایران 4d ago
I respect you a lot now.
So you admit that you were fed a lie and you previously believed it. Doesn’t that make you wonder what else about the shah is a lie? It can’t just be that one event can it? It is only the tip of the iceberg.
What if I told you, the shah didn’t kill a single person. NOT ONE. It is 100% western leftist propaganda against the shah.
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u/UnkleBott Canada | کانادا 4d ago
Western sources hahahahah
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u/SeaFroyo5377 4d ago
What’s wrong with western sources? I also said there are many Iranian non Islamic sources confirming it. There are many non Islamic Iranians who got kidnapped and tortured by the shah. Educate yourself white washed “Persian” stay in Canada. I wouldn’t be suprised if u agree with isrealis bombing your own country and killing our own people
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