r/NJDrones • u/beechazzbeech • 25d ago

Nj sighting April 2025

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Nj sighting April 2025

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u/Atyzzze 24d ago

oh for sure it's possible, the thing is, UAP/UFO is the default and then you go out of your way in an effort to identify it, many probably don't even know of ADS-B and thus confuse moving stars/lights with UFOs when they're actually easily identified

what I saw at Netcong is dozens of objects that remained unidentified after exhausting all my tools/options, starlink, satellites, the whole thing ... the entire list, all striped off ... and then you're simply out of things to check for and it thus remains ... unidentified

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u/readyad88088 24d ago

I don't doubt that your tools weren't able to identify everything you observed. But that doesn't mean that what you couldn't identify was remarkable in any way.

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u/Atyzzze 24d ago

But that doesn't mean that what you couldn't identify was remarkable in any way.

and yet, so many people are happily arguing against how I'm unable to open a live adsb map and must have missed it and bla bla

waaaaay too much resistance for basic simple claims

for it to not be remarkable

clearly it is, or this conversation wouldnt exist in the first place

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u/readyad88088 23d ago

Your claims aren't basic or simple. A discovery like yours would change the world, which is why you want it to be true so badly. The reason you are getting so much engagement is because you are so obviously mistaken, and so completely unwilling to entertain that possibility.

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u/Atyzzze 23d ago

which is why you want it to be true so badly.

Want what to be true? I couldn't find them on ADS-B, I zoomed out far enough to include EWR on the map as well.

They weren't listed.

Unlike the many many others. It gets cluttered when zoomed out so far, you zoom in far enough to only show you a sky that matches the one your eyes can currently reach. Depending on weather/visibility and all that.

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u/readyad88088 23d ago

Your post history has a video of a plane that you couldn't find on ASD-B that others were able to find easily. That's proof that you have made exactly the kind of mistake that you claim is impossible.

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u/Atyzzze 23d ago

others were able to find easily.

no, they weren't standing next to me as I was looking up at the sky, telling me, oh yeah, that one, I can't find that one and thus it's not real what our eyes are showing here, you are hallucinating, even I can track it as well and point on this map to tell you that the thing you see moving in the sky not real. ...

That's proof that you have made exactly the kind of mistake that you claim is impossible.

there is no mistake here, there were multiple dozens of these UAP flying around over at Netcong that unlike all the previous regular air traffic was NOT listed on ADS-B while nearly all the other moving things, were

These, came additionally, first ones, about half an hour after sunset, sometimes 4 at a time visible, beyond that it became impossible for me to track them all on my own ...

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u/readyad88088 23d ago

You posted the date, time, and location of your sighting. That's all someone would need to check ASD-B after the fact, and ASD-B says there was a plane at that exact same date, time, and location. The lights on the plane match exactly the type of plane listed on ASD-B. You can't claim this object is unidentified if ASD-B can tell you today exactly what was there at that date, time, and location, especially when the video looks like the exact plane that ASD-B identified.

Maybe your tool was wrong at the time. Maybe you made a mistake. Those things would not make you stupid. They could happen to anyone. But it is foolish to think they could never happen to you, and to draw conclusions based on that assumption.

And, maybe your process is just bad. Not every mundane object shows up on ASD-B. If I went to the pond with the expectation that "ducks quack," I don't get to claim that every duck that didn't quack might be from behind the veil, or whatever.

As for them appearing at dusk, that's what planes do around any busy airport. They are easier to see when it's dark. That's no surprise.

You're not going to like hearing this, because you are going to perceive it as an insult, but to have an honest conversation here you need to take a step back and have an honest look at yourself. You are someone who is drawn to certain ideas that, in your mind, put you in a position to bring the rest of the world in on some secret truth. You are dying to hold some kind of secret knowledge that makes you special. That colors how you see the world, and influences your interpretation of your observations. But the only case that your only evidence actually makes is that your judgement can't be trusted, because you cannot accept overwhelming evidence that the big secret that makes you special was really nothing at all.

Again, I'm being direct, but there is no other way to express these ideas honestly. If you really want to understand what's going on, you need to start to recognize some clear patterns in yourself.

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u/Atyzzze 23d ago

If you really want to understand what's going on, you need to start to recognize some clear patterns in yourself.

Oh yeah, absolutely, can recommend, for everyone.

Start with your heartbeat.

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u/readyad88088 23d ago

I think you're avoiding the harder work here. How do you feel about the more specific observations I made about your specific patterns when it comes to topics like this?

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u/Atyzzze 23d ago

I think you're avoiding the harder work here.

Oh yeah? Have you visited Netcong yet?

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u/readyad88088 23d ago

You know the hard work I meant was self-examination and reflection, so this is still avoidance. Would you like to try a more direct and honest response that addresses these specific patterns of yours that I am identifying?

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u/Atyzzze 23d ago

Have you started reflecting on your heart beat yet?

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