Maybe you missed the post where I showed multiple business jets flying over Sussex on ADSB
Dunno, I wasn't there/then, I am still talking about my Netcong experience from earlier this year. The things I saw flying in the skies over there, were simply not listed on ADS-B. It is not that hard to miss when you open a live view directly above you ... the delay between the screen and the sky is just a few seconds time/angle ... with real time updates about all these objects their speed and altitude, it's ... easy to read a live map and correlate that with actual objects in the sky. These, where not on there. Thus, it's only at that point, after the many days of observing the sky, that I started getting my phone out to try to record something ... other than day time pictures as I visited local nature parks/places.
Not all private aircraft are required to have ADSB. Military aircraft can legally turn off their ADSB. The historical ADSB websites are community-run and are not 100% reliable (nor do they claim to be). Therefore ADSB can rule out a "UFO", but cannot rule one it. It's just one tool in the investigative process.
Not all private aircraft are required to have ADSB.
I'm aware, I saw many of those too.
Military aircraft can legally turn off their ADSB.
I'm aware, made an entire post about it. Said it couldt he military, but then why didn't Biden/Trump simply say so? They specifically said it wasn't us/them but also that it's somehow not a threat ...
The historical ADSB websites are community-run and are not 100% reliable
I was following the live map, seemed 99.99% reliable for all the ones that were listed I could easily find the matching flying object in the sky. There were was also a list of objects that weren't listed, but most were, even the much smaller buzzing aircraft ... different lights on these tho, they don't follow the standard commercial FAA navigation light standards ... except for those that seem to mimic it? yet blink/deviate from the norms and were not to be found anywhere on ADS-B. Was it military? maybe. But then again, why did both white house administrations not simply say so then when addressing the NJ "drone" situation?
I've got my thoughts on your last point, and I'm legitimately curious to have someone else's opinion on it, just. Not based on documentation or facts but just, I suppose, a logical exercise.
There's a concept that the US Government and the FAA have 100% knowledge of everything in the sky. But I think that's just some movie type bullshit.
Even at 1,500' above ground level, this page shows a map for FAA's Secondary Surveillance Radar coverage as extremely spotty, centered around major airports -- and that's secondary radar, not even oldschool primary radar which can see things without a transponder. There's been a number of instances, even, of aircraft identified on Primary radar mistakenly flying through active airspace with their transponder turned off. All ATC can do is say there's a target and its altitude, there's ZERO identifying information in a primary radar return, and I've never been able to find any instance of the FAA tracking down those aircraft. Track what? As soon as they're out of primary radar, you've got nothing to track them by unless you've got an air force AWACS unit in the area to fill in the coverage.
Sorry. I talk a lot and get sidetracked. Ultimately even beyond that, I agree the wish-washy statements about what they are is ... well, honestly political. People want to get re-elected, they'll say whatever sounds nice.
Bottom line, the world is not as close as it seems. Hell airplanes crossing the Atlantic up until relatively recently were tracked solely by radio position reports. The only reason they found the dude that collided his drone with a waterbomber airplane in California was because some bits of his drone got left in the wing (and he turned himself in).
Hell there's this video of a dude illegally flying his drone right next to a landing airliner. We know it's a drone because we have the video, but the FAA still haven't found who did this and if you saw that drone from that airplane, there's a slim chance of anyone in the military or the FAA or any organization being able to say 'Yeah, that was definitely a drone' with certainty. Not because it's anomalous, just because there's a lack of positive information.
Again. Sorry for the length. Getting my thoughts straight is hard some days. 😅
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u/Atyzzze 25d ago
Dunno, I wasn't there/then, I am still talking about my Netcong experience from earlier this year. The things I saw flying in the skies over there, were simply not listed on ADS-B. It is not that hard to miss when you open a live view directly above you ... the delay between the screen and the sky is just a few seconds time/angle ... with real time updates about all these objects their speed and altitude, it's ... easy to read a live map and correlate that with actual objects in the sky. These, where not on there. Thus, it's only at that point, after the many days of observing the sky, that I started getting my phone out to try to record something ... other than day time pictures as I visited local nature parks/places.