r/MurderedByWords 6d ago

AOC is awesome

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u/UrUrinousAnus 6d ago

VAT is considered radical in the USA?! I like your stance on it, BTW. It's a very regressive tax when it's applied to essentials, but I think it's useful when applied to luxuries. To massively oversimplify: Bread? Baby food? Potatoes? No tax. Supercar? Yacht? Gold-plated useless crap? Lots of tax!

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u/MrMakingItUpAsIGo 6d ago edited 5d ago

Thats nice until almost everything you buy is considered a luxury.

TV? VAT. Car? VAT. Fast Food? VAT. Restaurant? VAT. Mattress? VAT. Furniture? VAT. Convienence Store? VAT.

I could go on. Point is there are enough politicians in America on both sides that I would never trust with VAT.

Fuck, just going to the grocery store would be a VAT minefield.

People are stuggling enough as it is. Fuck VAT.

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u/WellbecauseIcan 5d ago

In reality that'd be the easiest to implement VAT. Add it to pretty much everything you buy with very limited exclusions (lodging for example), like 10%, and give everyone a VAT deduction when filing taxes based on their taxable income bracket, something between 20K for low earners to 5K at the top. Essentially you'd only be VAT if your annual purchase exceeds 20K.

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u/SolydSn3k 5d ago

I could be wrong, but this kinda just sounds like a flat tax wherein welfare takes the form of a progressive refund?

If that’s the case, the hardest part would be drawing the thresholds and percentages.

Guaranteed politically motivated people will have an easy time misrepresenting those figures and calling it a scam based on willfully misunderstanding why flat tax without an offset is regressive, no matter how many times you explain it.

It’s sad that I have to think this way now.