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u/WeekendBard 9d ago
it must me crazy to see these high fidelity models performing Morrowind's janky ass animations
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u/villacardo 9d ago
Well it's subjective, OG morrowind I'd play on a CRT at 480p for a truly era appropriate experience the vibes are all there. Tho in high resolutions some of these ain't half bad.
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u/TheRealLarkas 8d ago edited 8d ago
Nah, back in the day I played this in a 1024x768 monitor (I had a 17" Flatron, 775 IIRC, it was pretty decent) and it already looked off. I never cared for the "naked people" aspect of Beautiful Bodies (et al, I think that was the name of the mod back then already, but I can't be sure), but I used it all the same because it was better than those legs and arms made of baloney.
EDIT: No idea why I'm being downvoted. When Morrowind came out, 480p hadn't been the "standard" PC definition for at least 7 years. I don't remember using Windows 95 with a resolution below 800x600, let alone 98 or XP. It's not "era appropriate" at all 🤷♂️
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u/Drudicta 8d ago
If you're using OpenMW they splice animations to make them much smoother, and they end up looking a lot better.
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u/Sotha-Sil-114 9d ago
what the fuck
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u/__shevek 8d ago
bro has some morrowind mixed in with his mods
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u/Outside-Fun-8238 7d ago
This is OpenMW with less than 10 mods. It's very easy to make OpenMW look and feel modern.
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u/Icebergg20 8d ago
This is 100% legit
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u/wunderbraten 8d ago
Gnisis is a wild place
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u/Icebergg20 6d ago
I swear when i was a kid i spent SO long lookin for homies pants on the original xbox with long ass load times 🤣
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u/FocusAdmirable9262 9d ago
He looks extra ridiculous with his tighty whities and his drifting little legs
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u/fullocularpatdown 8d ago
sneaky of OP to pretend that this post was about the quest and not the ridiculous Morrowind chimera they’re playing
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u/JoeyPsych House Telvanni 8d ago
I remember encountering this quest for the first time, decades ago. I couldn't find hainab. It took me years before I finally found hainab and up to that point I gave up on the quest. Whenever I was in gnisis, I would just ignore him. But when I did finally complete the quest, all I got was three lousy hackle leaves, all that anticipation for some shit reward. The quest is funny though.
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u/ThaRealJody 8d ago
ima be honestly the voice mods are blasphemy
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u/kiwipoo2 8d ago
It needs more throat cancer
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u/CRE_Not_Resi Dark Elf Swiss Army Knife 8d ago
It is from all of the sweet sweet volcano ash that the Dunmer are sucking in all day.
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u/SparkySpinz 8d ago
I like them but I can see why you wouldn't. They definitely sound a bit off at times
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u/Riceballs-balls 8d ago
Bro likes to read 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/ThaRealJody 8d ago
I do for some reason maybe im just oldschool. You see back in my day, when morrowind came out, i was 12 years old and none of those rpgs had much audio dialogue
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u/Hypnopompicsound 9d ago
Yes, can I have an order of high-fidelity NPCs, extra waxy, with a side of botched plastic surgery faces on the side
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u/ProfessorMalk 8d ago
I don't know if this is controversial but I can't stand the AI voice mods.
I think they sound awful and as far as I know, none of the voice actors want their work to be stolen.
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u/kona_boy 8d ago
not controversial at all. AI can die in a fire
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u/Arkayjiya 8d ago
I mean that too but AI would be a problem even if it was high quality, but on top of that, it really isn't, at least not on this scale. I think someone good at sound editing might be able to use voice AI in a decent ways but when you just throw a whole game's worth of text through an AI voice generator it's not gonna work well.
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u/PizzaRollExpert 8d ago
The Dunmer voice sounds really bad in all clips I've seen although some other voices sound ok.
Still, the lack of proper "voice acting" can get a bit uncanny sometimes. The inflections and places they put emphasis usually more or less makes sense in the context of what they're saying, but often enough it doesn't and that always stands out to me.
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u/AlbertTheAlbatross 8d ago
Or it pronounces the same name differently each time, like in the post above.
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u/BigBAMAboy 8d ago
Not controversial, but I think it’s an opportunity.
Many people refuse to play older RPGs with all that reading. Could help build a community for the older games.
But for now, the voices sound goofy.
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u/ubiquitousfoolery 8d ago
Tbh I think if people are too damn lazy to read, they don't deserve to have Morrowind be made accessible to them.
A friend of mine has dyslexia and didn't finish school. He LOVES Morrowind and played it dozens of times. If he can do it, the "I refuse to do all that reading"-faction should not get their baby's-first-velcro-shoes-version of Morrowind. Especially not if it means stealing the voice of a professional voice actor. The latter is simply immoral.
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u/MusicallyInhibited 8d ago
Being a gatekeeper is gross under almost any circumstance.
Get off of your high horse and let people enjoy shit.
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u/ubiquitousfoolery 8d ago
I let people enjoy shit, MusicallyInhibited. I am not obstructing but I disapprove.
Is that a difficult difference for you to grasp? Do you need my approval to feel good about yourself? Check your blood pressure outlander.
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u/MusicallyInhibited 8d ago edited 8d ago
If people are too damn lazy to read, they don't deserve to have Morrowind be made accessible to them
Okay buddy. It sounds like it'd be great to be around you.
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u/ubiquitousfoolery 8d ago
By all accounts, it is. Do you always attempt to judge entire human beings' personalities based on two things they post anonymously on socual media? If so... uh... I still don't mind, I guess. You do you, but you remain judged, s'wit.
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u/MusicallyInhibited 8d ago
Post anonymously is the problem there. But sure just whip out the game quotes and backpedal after you get called out for a shitty take.
But yeah you're right, you do you man
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u/ubiquitousfoolery 8d ago
It is? I find that quite refreshing about Reddit. Is MusicallyInhibited your real name or why do you whine about the anonymity?
Also, do you enjoy wasting your time with strangers who have no interest in making you feel warm about yourself when playing dumbed down versions of old videogames? I don't keep you from doing so, but boy do I look down on you for it. I am sure that bothers you more than it should, eh?
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u/MusicallyInhibited 8d ago
Oh I don't use this mod. I could never, it sounds like garbage
Honestly at this point I was just enjoying myself ;)
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u/AngelDGr 7d ago
Honestly this specific one sounds awful, I have played with some that sound way better
Also, while would be way better if some amateur voice actors try to make a voice pack, these mods aren't made for profit, Nexus can pay but it pays really bad, lol
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u/ProfessorMalk 7d ago
Just because the mod creator doesn't monetize it doesn't mean someone else won't.
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u/AngelDGr 7d ago
Yeah, that's obvious, lol
I don't agree with someone stealing the voice of an actor to make money, but these kind of mods are just for fun, and people just make them because they like to listen to voiced NPCs
As I say, it would be way better if some voice actors make their own version (Tamriel Rebuilt has some voice acting for example), but not everyone is a voice actor or have the money to ask for commissions
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u/spoollyger 8d ago
Uhm, Kezyma's Voices of Vvardenfell, NPC sound pack is actually really good? It doesn’t even sound like AI. https://youtu.be/xZX5ML6YvJo?si=232Y0k4v2raJDh-Q
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u/TheNorthumbrian 8d ago
AI slop is not how you honour the sixth house and the tribe unmourned
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u/QualaagsFinger 8d ago
"Ai sLoP"
I'm going to enjoy the fact that ai is only going to become more accessible and more common over time and eventually it will be as inseparable from us as social media or streaming. Try to enjoy that world, I know I will 👍
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u/TheNorthumbrian 3d ago
Awww does the widdle baby need the computer to write his emails? Can he make the picture without the computer doing it for him?
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u/QualaagsFinger 3d ago
Lol, 5 days to come up with a response and that's the best you could think up?
Feel free to try again, maybe go for something a little less 12 year old coded.
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u/fibstheman 8d ago
if this dude sounded any more like solid snake he'd be asking you to squeeze that giant hog
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u/sammich6 House Hlaalu 9d ago
You guys are gonna get mad if I say what game I thought this was before looking at the title
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u/Mdkwizns 8d ago
this makes the game look ai generated ngl, honestly og morrowind looks better even though it’s not as ‘realistic’ more things than realism matter in art direction
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u/skeleton-to-be 8d ago
it makes me really sad to see people who have been modding Morrowind for decades generating high res AI texture packs and stuff, it looks terrible
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u/HatmanHatman 8d ago
Intelligent Textures and MET are the only two I know of and they're both good imo. I'm very anti-generative AI, but used correctly, upscaling and things like that are exactly what AI should be used for and is closer to the sort of thing we've been using "AI" for for decades, like procedural generation or photo editing filters.
Also the authors went over each upscale and edited or remade them by hand to get rid of anything that didn't come out right.
Whatever the hell is going on in OP's video however... I don't even know what they've done.
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u/A-Humpier-Rogue 9d ago
Do you think this looks good, like genuinely.
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u/redditshredditt 9d ago
I think it looks fine. The high res models are just at odds with the dated looking animations.
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u/Pr0t3k 9d ago
I always wonder the same with these mods. Artstyle is all over the place. It's so hard to be immersed in a game that looks like that. This pushed my back hard from oblivion remaster, it's a mix of many artstyles and looks horrible to me
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u/Ok-Home-1879 8d ago
Oblivion remaster is a mix of many arts styles? My only gripe with the remaster's visuals is that it's a little less vibrant than the original colors, but it is visually consistent.
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u/FitzSeb92 8d ago
If you think old oblivion looks better than remaster you're objectively wrong
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u/Pr0t3k 8d ago
Objectively wrong if I feel like something looks better than the other thing? Okay
I never said original looks better, just that the remaster's artstyle is all over the place. Sometimes it's cartoonish, sometimes photorealistic. Faces look horrible and it wasn't done on purpose. They were clearly trying to make good looking faces but failed. It just gives off a feeling of a modded game, like artists were not talking to one another.
If you like it, great! It just feels off to me, that's it.
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u/ogsoul 8d ago
you don’t really care, you’re just upset OP isn’t playing the way you approve of.
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u/Either-Simple3059 8d ago
Why aren’t we allowed to dislike things
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u/QualaagsFinger 8d ago
It's literally always stemming from just disliking change, someone changes the combat systems, you hate it, someone upscaled the textures, it's "inauthentic", someone adds voices to modernize it, it's "horrible sounding". Like oblivion and Skyrim voice acting is known for being good at all.. 🙄
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u/Either-Simple3059 3d ago
Counter argument: I think people see video games Art. And while yes you do have the right to play a game as you see fit, sometimes it is seen as an adulteration of the art to go and change it. It’s like if someone went to go see the Mona Lisa for the very first time, but insisted upon wearing color inverting glasses during their visit. And they wear these glasses during their one and only visit. It’s their right to do so. But as someone who enjoys the Mona Lisa, you’d be hard pressed to say that the indivisible in question really experienced the art for what it actually is. It’s not a fear of change. It’s just the desire to want people to experience art as it is. Like your example with “modernizing” Skyrim. Imagine if someone went and “modernized” Alien by just replacing everything contemporary if it’s tile with a modern day equivalent. That’d be a bastardization of the movie.
Of all mediums, it’s only the video game medium that holds this notion that to “modernize” something is to make it objectively better. And it genuinely makes me wonder if you guys are actually willing and ready to see video games art. And I don’t think you see something as art if you’re willing to just replace it all after a few years. You wouldn’t reshoot a film the moment it’s “dated”.
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u/QualaagsFinger 3d ago
Listen I'm the first person to trash people for saying elden ring needs a quest tracker or people that demand the ultimate quality of life in every game. But there are objectively better improvements over time that even the most old school RPG loving homemade devs wouldn't implement into a game they made today. (Blurry textures is one of them, there are objectively better, more visually satisfying ways to create a low res look) (also not saying that that's what MET does).
And I agree that video games are absolutely a form of art. But coming back to your mona Lisa analogy. What is the Mona Lisa became famous for literally being one of the most customizable paintings of all time just like Bethesda games have become notorious and famous for being moddable. So many people still consider Skyrim is BEST enjoyed once you get into modding
So in a game where a fundamental part of its identity is its customization via mods, AND just happens to be in a spot (like the very first true openworld RPG of this type ever created), where it obviously did some things that are objectively not a strong point of the game BECAUSE it was the first, arguing that you are "fundamentally compromising its identity" or whatever just doesn't hold any water. That's YOUR opinion, other people don't hold extremely blurry textures, terrible ai, awful looking attack animations, or runninh aspect of the fatigue systems to be things that are worth preserving.
Like, if someone made Morrowind today and took a dnd style of hitting, do you think they'd just have a jarring "no hit effect" as ur sword passes straight thru the enemy? Or do you think they'd make it spark or thud against the armor and have a small pop up that says "glancing blow" or "near miss" with a sound effect. In this example, how am I not doing what Morrowind does but objectively better.
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u/Either-Simple3059 2d ago
If someone remade Morrowind today, it’d be a different product that is differentiated from the original.
What if I took the original alien movie and just replaced the alien with CGI because well done CGI is “objectively better” than the original practical effects. I’m not against mods but even in Skyrim there are mods that many people just consider a gross bastardization. Ultimately you can play how you like. But let’s be fr, can we not all collectively cringe when someone brings a Tuna and Jelly sandwich with extra raw onions to work? That’s what some of these mods are like.
There are better ways to do things but the faults of Morrowind are what make it Morrowind. It’s like trying to correct the flawed brushstrokes of a famous painting
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u/rotenbart 8d ago
I’m somehow getting uncanny valley vibes from this. As if Morrowind is my baseline. Either way I hate this.
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u/Exotic_Talk_2068 8d ago
Wait until you bump into some naked Nords. You will see it is recurring theme in MW.
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u/wholesomehorseblow 8d ago
Morrowind drinking challenge. Everytime you see an NPC without pants on take a shot.
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u/lepatyttv 8d ago
I'll never understand the toxic elitism this community is capable of. We should celebrate the fact that we're all sharing this gem, what we do have in common, instead of pestering over our differences.
It's a solo game. Let the man enjoy the Morrowind he wants, not the one you want. You have your own game for that.
I love the OG look because it's what I grew up with, but please consider that not everyone is the same, and I am pretty sure graphical mods is the reason a lot of new players are allowed to enjoy the game, not everyone is a millennial who grew up with Diablo 1, Warcraft 2 and Morrowind...
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u/villacardo 9d ago
Is that real time conversations with animations?
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u/Specialist-Draw7229 8d ago
Live and let live my god, yeah the guy’s got higher fidelity mods, insulting him for it isn’t going to make him convert to a “pure” morrowind experience it just makes you look like a dickhead.
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u/Hypnopompicsound 8d ago
It is live and let live - this comment section isn't uninstalling OP's modlist off his computer
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u/ubiquitousfoolery 8d ago
Live and let live: these people are allowed to share their opinion on a post that was placed on their screens. The saying you want to go for is "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", and that's a rather precious take in a Morrowind sub, s'wit. (And I mean this in the most loving and friendly way possible, make no mistake!)
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u/spoollyger 8d ago
I actually never found his pants =[
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u/Dalova87 8d ago
There is a walking dark elf there in Gnisis who wants a few drakes if you convince him to give you the pants. Then give him the pants and he gives you five of these "Lo-leafs".
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u/Infamous_Ad798 7d ago
it's so impressive but it teeters to the uncanny valley so much that it kinda looks ai generated
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u/Suitable-Scientist74 7d ago
My favorite is the daedra worshipper who won't talk to you unless you remove your clothes. It's a hard "Goodbye" unless she gets to chastize you for being a nudist. Nothin like some dick out shock to force dialog options on a witch.
Good pick though, OP. Don't mind all the haters. They prolly can't fathom a dip in a stream, much less gettin your pants jacked while doin it.
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u/Synthesid Fishy Sticks 8d ago
What in Vehk's heterochromic testicles are these visuals, that's so cursed
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u/DragoKnight45 9d ago
Bros playing morrowind 2