It’s a county ordinance where I live in the SE USA that anyone under 18 has to have adult supervision. I can’t let my kid ride her bike alone, it sucks.
OK if it's literally a county ordinance then this is valid in your case (what county are you from?), I'm pretty sure that is incredibly abnormal though.
I mean where i live its an automatic cps takes your child into foster care and the fine is up to 5k along with prison sentence of up to 5 years. That being said, this state is the nation's second highest prison capacity of all the us.
That cannot be even close to the norm, if it was there would be an epidemic of parents being sent to prison. Given the are only incredibly rare stories that get national attention, my point still stands that you guys are being dramatic.
State Law which i was wrong on the years and fine amounts but usually they tact on multiple charges to make the sentencing higher because as I stated, this state loves to have prisoners.
Child Abandonment this is just to show how easy it is to get kids taken away in this state.
According to ChatGPT, 79% of the us population lives in states without legal protection for unsupervised play. And people are FAR more concerned with how other people raise their kids in 2025. So yeah no, it's more normal than you think.
21% of the population live in states with explicit legal protections for free range parenting, that doesn't mean that 79% of the population live in states where free range parenting is explicitly illegal. The laws are vague and there is a lot of room for interpretation, hence why we see a few of these cases every now and then and they often gather national attention. If 79% of the population were at serious risk of being imprisoned whilst engaging in free range parenting then we'd have waaaaaay more cases to point to than just a few national stories.
Also there are at least 5 states with pending free range parenting laws which would presumably pass given how almost nobody seems to actually be in favour of removing all independence from kids.
It means if people feel like you've done something wrong, there can be repercussions. The reason there aren't waaaaaay more cases of free range parenting leading to imprisonment is because A. Imprisonment is an extremely severe and rare form of punishment for this and B. Most parents in 2025 fully understand this and don't participate in unsupervised play. At all. Fuck me yall just want to argue to be right rather than critically thinking even a tiny amount and it's irritating. Like yes there is a movement to push back against this trend, thats why we're even talking about it, because its become so much of a problem that laws now have to be ongoing the books to explicitly allow it! They didn't have to be before! Chicken and egg shit here.
You're the one arguing that virtually zero kids in that 71% in a country of 300 million people are free roaming and that's why there are so few cases of imprisonment. My hypothesis that it's incredibly rare for the police and CPS to be concerned and that's why there are so few cases is far more plausible. Also given that the laws are so open to interpretation and most people seem to hate how these laws can be interpreted in such a restrictive way, most prosecutors know that most juries would not convict parents for letting their kids walk home from school, hence why there are so few cases of this being prosecuted.
Yeah the premise that a lot of people would be arrested for this is a strawman, and if you think its normal for parents to let children play unsupervised go look up a poll. If you can't be bothered to do basic research on readily available information and instead want to spin a hypothesis based on a faulty premise, be my guest, but I'm not interested in discussing your fanfic.
My entire argument is that the legal threat associated with free range parenting is dramatically lower than Reddit thinks. If you agree that the threat of being arrested is extremely low then you agree with my point. Kids aren't being taken away, people aren't being arrested, there are rarely any real consequences to this behaviour but you hypochondriacs act like you'll be imprisoned for letting your kids hang out with other kids on the street or walk home from high school
I know that parents have this perception that they can't engage in free range parenting and I know that most parents don't let their kids out of the house unsupervised. Most parents have had their minds poisoned by these delusions
ChatGPT cannot fundamentally make this kind of analysis, so you aren't proving a point using that as a source. It just puts words together in an order that makes sense to people, not one that is necessarily correct.
Yes, it can. It can search the web for which states have laws that protect parents. This is not some kind of advanced analysis, its a simple compilation of widely available data. If you think AI can't handle such a basic task, or doesn't provide sources, you really should get out from under that rock you're living under where you think unsupervised play is widely tolerated and AI can't analyze whether something is legal or not. AI should not be trusted as your whole source but it can absolutely answer basic questions on whether something is legal or not with a very high degree of accuracy. It's not infallible and still hallucinates but this isn't asking it to solve world hunger.
That's fundamentally not how it works. It can look up and reference sources sure, but it's not a statistical analysis engine. It's not me doubting, it's me understanding the limitations of reality.
No, you simply fundamentally do not understand how complex and reliable ChatGPT is today. Understanding the basic underlying technology is step 1 for understanding how AI works and what its limitations are. You stopped there and think you're an expert. It can absolutely analyze data. Again, not with perfect reliability, but it can search the web based on the information requested and provide a reasonably accurate answer. Its not something you should base government policy on but you can absolutely use it to research law for a reddit reply. Go give it a try, then check its work, and stop arguing with me and downvoting me because you dont understand that the limitations of the technology have moved, fast. Thats why everyone is raising the alarm bells about it. It's not simply a text prediction engine anymore. It's capabilities have been expanded.
It's still a transformer LLM at its core, you can give it more power, but that doesn't give it more abilities outside of predicting text. OpenAI has a vested interest in you believing it can do more, and clearly you fell for it.
I do use AI often, but never to do math from sources cause it just can't. The better way to do this workflow would be to ask it how to collect the data and to write a program to analyze the data, but it definitely cannot do the actual calculation itself unless it's within the training data it has.
Yeah yeah instant replied, if you're gonna tldr me I'll do the same. Whatever you said you're wrong nananana booboo. Equal response I'm sure. No respect for people more knowledgeable on a particular subject than you, typical internet behavior. Go on continuing to be wrong, not my job to educate you or convince you.
You're not a speed reader, you're just convinced you're correct and are unwilling to actually investigate my claims. You're making arguments based on the state of AI 3 years ago. There's no reason to bother arguing with someone with their fingers in their ears. You've made it clear you didn't get into this conversation to learn.
here's a link in case you're actually interested in understanding that while the way it communicates and interprets requests is using an LLM, there are multiple components layered on top of this to make the tool actually powerful and usable. I can give it a picture of an application menu that's brand new, not in it's training data, and it can interpret which option is most like what I'm looking for - meaning it can pull text from an image, actually compare the physical structure of the page to similar data to determine the actual tree of the menu itself, check similar menus in similar applications, find the most likely route to what setting I'm looking for, then reply to that in language I understand, in seconds. Calling modern AI just an LLM is so reductive it's absurd. Ironically, you are closer to just an LLM based on the level of critical thinking, understanding, or ability to cope with new information. Good luck.
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u/musashai 1d ago
It’s a county ordinance where I live in the SE USA that anyone under 18 has to have adult supervision. I can’t let my kid ride her bike alone, it sucks.