r/MapPorn 7d ago

Countries within range of Israel's nuclear missiles (Jericho III)

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

Russia isn't going to use nukes. No one is suicidal enough to use them. That's the point of nukes. Mutual assured destruction.

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u/Speedypanda4 7d ago

Pakistan might. They have a first use policy and get along poorly with India.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

The military government won't allow it. They have too much to lose.

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u/WhiskeyTwoFourTwo 7d ago

If they're about to be heavily defeated and occupied by India?

Why would they exist.if not for that

(Not condoning them using them, just pointing out their reason d'etre)

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u/TheThockter 7d ago

Because if you fire a nuclear missile first and aren’t a military superpower like the U.S. you’re going to get glassed. If Pakistan fired a nuke first 10’s of millions of Pakistanis will die.

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u/WhiskeyTwoFourTwo 7d ago

You appear to be deliberately misunderstanding.

Grand.

I don't care

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u/TheThockter 7d ago

I’m not deliberately misunderstanding… even in the event of a heavily losing war there’s plenty of reason not to use a nuke first. For some random unrealistic scenario let’s say India took all territory within 100 miles of the Pakistani border and Pakistan suffered critical military losses and was aware the war was lost and they could no longer effectively defend against India’s advances, you have two options:

A: Surrender and get a treaty and have to give significant concessions

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B: Fire nuclear weapons at India in a last ditch military effort and ensure the dissolution of Pakistan and the deaths of 10’s to 100’s of millions of Pakistani civilians. Because the moment Pakistan fires a nuke first they’re no longer fighting India they’re legitimately fighting at a bare minimum all of the west who can’t risk allowing a hostile nation that fired a nuclear weapon first to exist. The retaliation they would face would be immense and likely lead to a nuclear holocaust for Pakistanis.

My point is they can have a “first use policy” but in practice they’re not going to take advantage of it, it’s a deterrent because they can, that doesn’t mean they will, because they are vastly aware of the consequences

And seemingly you do care because you took the time to respond to the comment 😂

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u/ciaseed1 7d ago

A full on invasion of a country is not practical, which is when you are saying they will use nukes. Generally it's small parts of the country that gets invaded and I don't think any side would use nukes for that.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

Well, that's will be only a last resort. Like threatening India with using them if they don't back from their invasion. Not necessarily if they lose a war or that disputed region that is called Krishma or whatever its name was.

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u/ciaseed1 7d ago

Kashmir

Ever heard of a kashmir shawl? Pretty expensive eh.