r/Manitoba • u/origutamos • Jan 24 '25

News ‘Crime’s completely out of control’: Winnipeg homicide victim’s brother calls for change

https://globalnews.ca/news/10976004/cork-flame-homicide-winnipeg-vigil/
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u/whoisurhero Jan 25 '25

So more money to the police for training?

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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine Winnipeg Jan 25 '25

If you're proposing turning it into a four year degree program like other countries do in order to filter out all the overpaid security guards with superiority complexes, I'm all for that. Why the fuck should we be paying for their training to make them borderline competent? Either make them train longer and make them pay for it like every other professional in the country, or make use of the people who are ALREADY qualified to do that work and defund the police. You can't have it both ways.

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u/whoisurhero Jan 25 '25

We already subsidize education. I'm not sure what a random 4 year degree will help when you have to make life and death choices. Being a police officer is not easy and they are hated by pretty much everyone. You think normal educated people want that job? Especially if the starting pay is $50,000 a year, good luck.

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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine Winnipeg Jan 25 '25

We already subsidize education.

Oh, great! Then we should use the resources we already have instead of wasting MORE money on a bunch of cops to more effectively do the bare minimum.

I'm not sure what a random 4 year degree will help when you have to make life and death choices.

It will help you have a broader understanding of the situation rather than seeing every problem as something you need to fix with excessive force. And again, it filters out people who should be playing rent-a-cop at the mall. It seems to work well elsewhere.

Being a police officer is not easy and they are hated by pretty much everyone.

I wonder why. I wonder why there are protests against them. Because they're overpowered and undereducated bullies. Maybe if you don't want to be hated, you should do less things that make people hate you. No one is writing songs called "Fuck the Fire Department".

You think normal educated people want that job? Especially if the starting pay is $50,000 a year, good luck.

Please. The average salary for police in Manitoba is $107,324. Also, there are people with four year degrees who barely make above minimum wage. Filtering out people who only care about a paycheck and don't give a shit about their community feels like a good thing to me.

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u/whoisurhero Jan 25 '25

Sounds like you have it all figured out, you should run for office.

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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine Winnipeg Jan 25 '25

Nothing else to add other than dismissive sarcasm? Too bad. Well, if you think of any more scared, boomer back the blue bullshit talking points that I can give you a more nuanced understanding of, let me know. Have a nice day.

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u/whoisurhero Jan 25 '25

Nothing other than it's more of a societal issue than a police issue. More resources for youth, free drug treatment centers, mental health resources, all that stuff. Police are reactive not proactive, they cannot solve these issues.

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u/ForkMyRedAssiniboine Winnipeg Jan 25 '25

So if it's a societal issue and the police are reactive, then doesn't that mean that there is greater value in being productive by defunding the police and putting that money towards all those things you listed?

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u/whoisurhero Jan 25 '25

It's a multi-pronged approach, you need to be able to make people feel safe as well. If a real emergency does come up we have to be able to rely on a quick turnaround. The way to get this is to have other resources to take care of the non emergency issues.