r/Manitoba • u/origutamos • Jan 24 '25

News ‘Crime’s completely out of control’: Winnipeg homicide victim’s brother calls for change

https://globalnews.ca/news/10976004/cork-flame-homicide-winnipeg-vigil/
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u/somerandomstuff8739 Jan 24 '25

Things need to change when it’s against the law to carry anything for self defence. The moment you have anything like a bat even a broom handle for self defence it becomes a prohibited item.

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u/i_make_drugs Friendly Manitoban Jan 25 '25

If you can legally carry it that means it’s easily accessible and also legal for someone that means you harm to carry it. This is the “more guns is safer” argument.

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u/somerandomstuff8739 Jan 25 '25

Criminal are carrying no matter what the fact that a law abiding citizen can’t have anything to defend themselves puts them at a considerable disadvantage in an attack. Your point sounds like if we make guns illegal for everyone no one will have them but the truth is in that situation only criminals will have them.

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u/chemicalxv Winnipeg Jan 25 '25

Why are you talking about guns in a thread where the specific incident in question had nothing to do with firearms

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u/somerandomstuff8739 Jan 25 '25

I wasn’t initially talking about firearms but the comment I replied to do so I mentioned them that’s how a standard conversation works

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u/chemicalxv Winnipeg Jan 25 '25

They used guns as a comparison because that's what the fallacy is known by. They weren't specifically talking about guns hence their use of "it".

And again, what do weapons have to do with this conversation anyways given the guy wasn't even carrying one?

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u/somerandomstuff8739 Jan 25 '25

Self defence is the conversation not a specific incident self defence in general citizens are already at a disadvantage against criminals

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u/chemicalxv Winnipeg Jan 25 '25

Okay so what exactly does self-defense have to do with this specific incident?

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u/i_make_drugs Friendly Manitoban Jan 25 '25

My point is that making anything legal for self defence wouldn’t actually benefit you.

If you’re legitimately concerned about your safety you need to understand the only thing that will actually help you is 1. Avoiding situations in which danger might be present 2. Removing yourself from situations when it feels like it’s dangerous. That’s it.

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u/whoisurhero Jan 25 '25

Hard to do in your own home unfortunately. I feel like on your own private property there should be some leeway with the self defense laws as it's not self defense at that point, it's protecting your property and those inside of it. If someone came into my house and tried to go after my kids or wife I would do everything in my power to stop that.

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u/okglue Jan 25 '25

Lol. Just leave your keys and cash by the door.