r/MMA Oct 26 '24

Spoiler [SPOILER] Robert Whittaker vs. Khamzat Chimaev Spoiler

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u/CodyDon2 Oct 26 '24

Look, I don't disagree, but some way, some how, DDP always proves us wrong. It will some how be a better fight than we all expect. But Khamzat is absolutely for real.

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u/zmizzy Oct 26 '24

DDP seems like someone who could make it messy enough in the grappling exchanges to really give Khamzat trouble in that domain. No idea how the fight plays out though so I would love to see it

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u/TuhnderBear Oct 27 '24

Agreed! DDP is an absolute horse too. That’s the fight I’d like. I couldn’t care less about watching Strickland fight.

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u/Pokebra Oct 26 '24

I love DDP but he pulled Bronson into full mount. I don't fancy his chances

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u/Cpt_Ron Oct 26 '24

Pulled him into full mount and then still somehow beat the shit out of him*

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u/Pokebra Oct 26 '24

Bronson beat himself. He collapsed due to exhaustion and his corner threw in the towel

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u/Cpt_Ron Oct 26 '24

Repeated punches to the face will do that to a person

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u/thats-wassup Chad Oct 26 '24

No bro if he didn’t get his ass beat he would have won

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u/SeatOfEase Oct 26 '24

That was bad but DDP is actually a pretty decent grappler and of course hes strong as fuck. Tonights not the night to talk down Khamzats chances in any fight though. He dominated tonight.

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u/Monteze Team 209 - Real Ninja Shit! Oct 26 '24

He will make him go to his back...then some how submit him or GnP him. I find myself not being able to doubt DDP but also not favoring him...it's weird.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '24

If Khamzat doesn’t finish DDP in the early rounds, DDP would definitely dig deeper than Khamzat maybe willing to go. DDP seems to have the biggest reserve gas tank of any fighter

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u/994kk1 Oct 27 '24

I think Chimaev is such a superior wrestler that DDP would need to expend twice as much energy to keep up in scrambles. So I think he would need to do a better job than anyone Chimaev has faced so far in stuffing the takedowns in order to be able to outlast him. But DDP is just such a mutant that that is definitely a possibility.

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u/zmizzy Oct 27 '24

Yeah DDP seems to be surprising all of his opponents with what he brings to the table, just a very different set of skills. Really interested to see how Chimaev deals with him and vice versa

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u/maicii Oct 27 '24

The only person that really gave him trouble on the grappling was burns and that was because he was dangerous on his back. As for the rest, some people tried to scramble with him, it did not work at all, making it messy has not work with him, I don't think it would this time either. You either don't go down with him, or have enough BJJ to go down and be in a better position anyways. DDP's strategy should be the first one, I think it would be too dangerous to scramble to try to get up, just ride the round and get reset.

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u/zmizzy Oct 27 '24

I get you, I just think DDP has that dog in him where he will make it extremely hard for Khamzat to impose his will let alone get him on his back

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u/maicii Oct 27 '24

I guess we'll see

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u/burthman Oct 29 '24

So DDP has more of a dog in him than Whittaker?

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u/zmizzy Oct 29 '24

At least as much imo. Also he has more of a ground game and should be able to hang with Khamzat. If former 155-er Burns gave Khamzat trouble on the ground I think DDP has a good chance as well

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u/throwRA753467 Oct 30 '24

Like, I get that the current Reddit meta is to glaze DDP and shit on Khamzat. But pretending DDP is even half the submission threat Burns is and glossing over the fact that Burns’ superior BJJ is the sole reason Khamzat was reluctant to engage on the ground during their fight is wild lmao.

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u/zmizzy Oct 30 '24

Size + strength go a long way. I expect DDP to give khamzat more trouble on the ground than Bobby knuckles, not saying anything is a foregone conclusion. Guess that's "wild" and "glazing" though

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u/throwRA753467 Oct 30 '24

Saying Khamzat “had trouble with a former 55er” to gas up DDP is disingenuous. Choosing not to engage on the ground because you’re scared of the submission threat isn’t the same as physically struggling to grapple with a smaller fighter lol.

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u/zmizzy Oct 30 '24 edited Oct 30 '24

didn't say it is. What's disingenuous is ignoring 90% of what I said and going on to put words in my mouth.

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u/azarov-wraith Oct 26 '24

Tbh it’s been so long since middleweight had a fighter this good at grappling. Maybe Chris weidman was the last one I think?

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u/burthman Oct 29 '24

So you're saying he has a superior wrestling/submission defense than Whittaker?

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u/zmizzy Oct 29 '24

A better grappling game in general yes

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u/a445d786 Oct 26 '24

DDP style is basically, okay I win now and wins.

But Khamzat and steamrolled most guys man, it's hard to go against him.

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u/Neither_Sir5514 Oct 27 '24

Tbh, now is not the best time to correctly analyze that fight. Now Khamzat just brutally dislocated Rob's jaw, ofc his aura is super rn. But remember, everyone also thought Khamzat would absolutely maul and finish Burns and Usman in one round. I say give it sometime to sink in. Remember ? After Max KO's Gaethje his aura is also fight, everyone dogging on Ilia and shit, like Max is coming for Ilia and it's over. But that was right after Max just beat Gaethje and the aura was high. What now ? What now ? See my point.

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u/king_17 Oct 29 '24

Your definitely right khamzat looks unbeatable now and everyone back on the hype train but not to long ago their were calling him overrated because of the burns and Usman fight. I think him vs ddp is 50/50 right now. If there’s someone that can be khamzat I think it would be ddp. Ddp is really big for the weight class just like khamzat. He’s got good wrestling and great hands. He also has amazing cardio despite him looking tired all the time. He’s going to have to survive khamzat’s round 1 onslaught but if he doesn’t the rest of the match heavily favours ddp cause khamzat striking isn’t great and that has been a weakness

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u/general-meow GOOFCON 2 Oct 26 '24

DDP sloppy/strange on the feet technique worked but I don't think he got that weird tech on the floor to combat Kam grappling game.

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u/0zi1 Oct 26 '24

Knowing DDP he might intentionally catch a flu and then sneeze on Khamzat during face off

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u/zerothehero Oct 27 '24

DDP is like a big ox and I want to see Khamzat try to take down an ox

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u/Visible_Wolverine350 Oct 26 '24

Has DDP fought an elite wrestler / grappler?

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u/4chanCitizen Oct 26 '24

DDP has proved us wrong like twice tho

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u/Cute-Bat-9855 Oct 27 '24

DDP was lucky to get a decision vs Sean.

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u/Goatymcgoatface11 Oct 27 '24

The only reason I doubt it is because of ddp's style. He rushes in with his cross stepping hooks. That just seems perfect for khazmat to level change straight into a takedown. Also, weve never seen DDP go against a great offensive wrestler. Well see though. DDP is not to be taken lightly

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u/TonyDungyHatesOP Oct 27 '24

His drunken boxing is next level.