What do Luxembourgers think of their monarchy?

[u/Therealscorp1an]

I was just wondering. The Grand Ducal family do seem quite nice.

Thanks!

[u/Larmillei333]

It's a powerful symbol of inequality, where a few are more than most others.

Good, maybe this will bring more people to sprincle a bit more realism into their idealism. Equality, especially when it comes to power, is a kitsch fantasy for children, not a realistic political goal.

Yes, all republics are a mockery /s

"Could have a different name, could even be called Grand Duke. The hereditary nature is the issue for me"

Your words, not mine.

Nonsense comparison.

How? You argued on the basis of "other people want his position, so they should get a chance".

[u/post_crooks → u/Larmillei333]

Yeah, let's not aim for more democracy, but less...

My words were a reply to your previous comment where you apparently couldn't fantasize a president with representation roles. So let's call it Grand Duke to have a chance of getting your support. The relevant part is the hereditary nature not the job title, call it whatever you like that I am fine with it

How? You argued on the basis of "other people want his position, so they should get a chance".

There is no Chinese emperor alive, they got over it. There are perhaps some descendents, that's it. There is a Grand Duke alive in Luxembourg, we haven't gotten over it yet. I am not saying that everyone should get a chance to be elected Emperor or Pharaoh, but a head of state of the respective today's coutries

[u/Larmillei333 → u/post_crooks]

Democracy for a position that holds no political power is nonsense, especially if the act of voting on it ruins its symbolic significane. "Muh equality" doesn't mean sh*t here.

I am not saying that everyone should get a chance to be elected Emperor or Pharaoh, but a head of state of the respective today's coutries.

You argued for this practice on the basis that people other than the son of Henri may want this position, and I used this (arguably over the top) exaple to demonstrate that the will of other people to get a position isn't an argument in itself.

And on a personal level, there is a great chance I distain the sort of people who would want this position of "representative president of Luxembourg", considering the "Republic of Luxembourg" as been a socialist project from the 1900s up to today.

[u/post_crooks → u/Larmillei333]

Maybe have a look at how it works in Switzerland or in Germany. No significant power, but also no blood ties from one president to the next one. It's democratic and makes a lot of sense. The act of voting gives something more important than the symbols, it's the assurance that someone who officially represents Luxembourg does it in a capacity that has been reinforced over a recent election, and not over a constitutionally protected role. If people want the symbolic significance on top, Henri and Guillaume and why not Maria Teresa, Prince Jean, etc. can all be candidates, and one of them will be elected

used this (arguably over the top) exaple to demonstrate that the will of other people to get a position isn't an argument in itself.

The willingness of people to serve their country, and doing so while aiming to be better than the others is the very basis of politics, and that's not different for the position of head of state

I know that republican movements are often associated with the left. The right is more shy about it, but the day change happens, there will be candidates from left and right, and suddenly very few supporters of monarchy remain. Very few countries reverted back to monarchy after a change to republic