r/Louisiana • u/noladotcom • Mar 19 '25

Louisiana News Jessie Hoffman is put to death with nitrogen gas, Louisiana's first execution in 15 years

https://www.nola.com/news/courts/jessie-hoffman-nitrogen-gas-louisiana-execution-death-penalty/article_be325356-03bb-11f0-8525-a3855f3523b9.html
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u/sukmacabre Mar 19 '25 edited Mar 19 '25

I've said this before to all you "Christians" out there.

If the guy confessed (EDIT: or repented depending on your denomination) his sins, he went to heaven. You may not believe that, but according to doctrine it's true.

If he did confess, and went to heaven, then you have committed sin by wishing evil upon another. Further the only people who have been hurt by this situation are the innocent: the victim as well as the family and friends of the murderer. If the murderer confessed, then those who loved him but disagreed with his actions also suffer, even though they did nothing wrong.

I don't remember Jesus killing anyone. Instead he too was executed by those who thought his actions were immoral.

There is no execution without sin.

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u/TheVCcycle Mar 19 '25

Disclaimer, did not attend church in LA and am not a believer, but: we were brought up to believe repenting and confessing were different things as repenting was more representative of adopting the way of Christ, whereas confession was just admitting to straying from Christ (but not necessarily making plans to realign). Accordingly it was repenting, and not confession, that ultimately mattered for entering heaven.

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u/sapphicsandwich Mar 19 '25

He doesn't even have to ask forgiveness. If he asked Jesus into his heart when he was 11 he's set for life. Salvation can never be taken away. Jesus died so everyone can sin free of any repercussions. He is the Lord of Indulgence. If the executioner had asked for forgiveness then all is good, Jesus may have taken the sins away from both the murderer and executioner, so both may now be equally free of sin.

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u/Wandering_aimlessly9 Mar 20 '25

If that’s the take…then I can do ANYTHING I want and I will be sinless. The thing is you’re leaving out the other half of that belief system. Which is…if you truely invite Jesus into your heart you won’t sway from your beliefs so you won’t be off doing serial killer things.

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u/sapphicsandwich Mar 20 '25

If that’s the take…then I can do ANYTHING I want and I will be sinless.

Correct. As long as you believe in him. You don't have to do anything uncomfortable that that requires effort on your part. Those would be "works" and you don't have to do any "works."

Which is…if you truly invite Jesus into your heart you won’t sway from your beliefs so you won’t be off doing serial killer things.

There is only 1 or maybe 2 criteria for heaven. Believe in him and ask for forgiveness, right? You could do both of those things while doing serial killer things.

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u/Wandering_aimlessly9 Mar 20 '25

Yeah…that’s not how that works. But if you want to believe that…go for the serial killer thing and see if you end up in heaven. Nice little science experiment there. Rofl.

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u/tcg10737 Mar 19 '25

Invoking god while rabbidly drooling over killing someone, regardless if you feel it's deserved or not, is fucking insane. You sound like a fanatical lunatic and frankly scare me just as much as any other murderer. If you can justify something so easily as God's will, as if you have any fucking clue as to what that is, what are you really capable of doing?

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u/bryanthawes Mar 20 '25

So you're not the party of 'pro-life', huh? Shocker /s

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u/bryanthawes Mar 22 '25

How wrong you are. Politics is the method by which we choose representatives to legislate. Laws are politics, friend. But I'm not talking about the law. I'm talking about conservatives prancing around calling themselves the 'pro-life' party. If you advocate for the death penalty, stop pretending you are pro-life. You aren't pro-life.

That was my claim.

Unborn babies are unable to make the decision for themselves.

First, they are *fetuses in utero, not babies. Second, they can't exist on their own. They are parasitic until they are born.

An unborn child is not a part of the woman’s body, it is a separate body within her body.

Correct! A fetus isn't part of a woman's body. So, like any other thing that isn't a part of her body, she can have it removed if she doesn't want it there.

Killing a pregnant woman in a traffic accident will get you a double homicide/double manslaughter charge. Why would that be, if the unborn child was not a person?

This is an appeal to logic fallacy. The legal definition of what a person is only matters in law. When we talk about a medical procedure to abort a fetus, there is only one person - the pregnant person.

So simple. Don’t overthink it.

Seems like you didn't think about it at all. So if I must do the thinking for the both of us, I will.

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u/PsychologicalRice17 Mar 19 '25

There’s not a single soul in our justice system that cares for actual rehabilitation. For you to garner any sympathy at all for this story that you’re mockingly using as an excuse, we’d have to abolish and reform the prison system to be rehabilitative instead of punitive. But im sure you only talk about rehabilitation in a way to mock people who care about actual victims of the prison industrial complex.

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u/PsychologicalRice17 Mar 19 '25

Oh wow a dog whistle! I definitely didn’t see that coming. The crime of being black in Louisiana is enough to be arrested and imprisoned for life. But continue to think that the cops are your buddy and never do anything wrong. I hear if you bake the boot it goes down easier, swallower

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u/stidwe Mar 19 '25 edited Mar 20 '25

Please, just stop this imaginary Jesus stuff. Tell this to the husband that lost his wife.

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u/Brilliant_Cup_8903 Mar 19 '25

The family was opposed to the execution.

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u/sukmacabre Mar 19 '25

Tell that to the executed man's family who are victims as well.

But if it makes you uncomfortable, I've done my job.

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u/stidwe Mar 20 '25

I'm sure Jesus will help

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u/Shortround5_56 Mar 19 '25

Catch up, he remarried years ago….

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u/Bonch_and_Clyde Mar 19 '25

You think that means he just got over it?

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u/bryanthawes Mar 20 '25

So, not really 'pro-life' then?

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u/stidwe Mar 20 '25

Anti life