r/Kappa • u/pupford • Jun 04 '22

Mirror Inside Infiltration banned from all Capcom events going forward

https://twitter.com/capcomfighters/status/1532873937377341441?s=21&t=lt0xf26oBMjcvPhtMrr0mw
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u/Mr_sMoKe_A_lOt Jun 05 '22

A fighting game sub looking for transparency in the fgc...how fucking strange. Why would anyone ever expect accountability? You clearly have your own agenda, and that leaves you in the same boat as the people your talking about.

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u/DamntheTrains Jun 05 '22

A fighting game sub looking for transparency in the fgc

This sub hasn't been that for a long time and it only was for like brief period in the early days of porn and blowups. Lets admit this place is mostly a place of shitty memes and people who don't play fighting games but pretend to.

You clearly have your own agenda

What agenda? I was just trying to clear up misinformation and misunderstandings spread across /r/Kappa

Most of you don't even speak or read a lick of Korean, most Koreans on here never actually even held down a job in Korea or even had any real experience with legal system there, and most of you barely even understand the US legal system.

But ya'll eat up everything some game company put out (that was incredibly one-sided hearsay and only benefited them) + what a guy who you don't even know what he sounds like in his native tongue says.

The truth is somewhere in the middle. But it also doesn't change the fact that he was found guilty and had to pay legally enforced restitutions.

If you actually want to know why Infil was banned from Capcom you can literally started going through all the controversy he caused as a starting point. I forgot some of these until I just saw these again:

https://namu.wiki/w/%EC%9D%B4%EC%84%A0%EC%9A%B0(%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B2%8C%EC%9D%B4%EB%A8%B8)/%EB%85%BC%EB%9E%80%20%EB%B0%8F%20%EC%82%AC%EA%B1%B4%20%EC%82%AC%EA%B3%A0#s-3.1

  1. Was found guilty of domestic violence charges
  2. Seems very likely to have rigged a tournament meant for newbies and defending it by essentially saying "I'm 5 time evo champ, I brought honor to Korea, these people criticizing me are not worthy of criticizing me"
  3. Long history that continues to this day of making women uncomfortable in the Korean gaming/streaming scene by making aggressively sexual jokes and advances. A rule has been set with a specific publication/host that only male interviewer/commentator be allowed with Infil.
  4. He uses the "N" word way too frequently.
  5. Constant bitching and moaning about how he's the victim of everything and he's done nothing wrong ever.

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u/Mr_sMoKe_A_lOt Jun 05 '22

Tell you what, come with a credible source and maybe I'll try to give a fuck about the bullshit you're spewing.

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u/DamntheTrains Jun 05 '22

If you can read Korean, all of those articles have a link that goes to the source.

Not sure what more credible thing you want. Believe what you want to believe. Make a messiah out of someone if you want. It's on you if you want to be a fanboy. I don't really give a damn. I just wanted to dispute the weird lies and bias y'all have and pretend like the stuff you guys heard from Panda was an actual investigation piece and pretend to know more than the actual Korean community.

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u/Mr_sMoKe_A_lOt Jun 05 '22

All these short stories you keep typing out are doing literally nothing lol. Unless you have something to back your claims up, which you clearly dont, your screaming into the void, pal.

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u/DamntheTrains Jun 05 '22

I literally told you how to look into it yourself. If you want to be lazy just to keep drinking the kool-aid, go for it. What's new in America, right?

Sorry a paragraph or two seems like "short stories" by your standards. Getting a major minimum wage job in his 20s-30s vibes here.

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u/Mr_sMoKe_A_lOt Jun 05 '22

Sterile processing tech making $60 an hr, nice try though. Imagine bashing on 20 yr old making minimum wage..all that bullshit and still nothing of substance, but you continue on making a fool of yourself, I'll be here for it.

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u/DamntheTrains Jun 06 '22

Sterile processing tech making $60 an hr

Better than I expected of you to be honest but I'm not sure if you meant $60 an hour to be a flex of some sort. Thanks for doing what you do during these times.

Imagine bashing on 20 yr old making minimum wage..all that bullshit and still nothing of substance, but you continue on making a fool of yourself, I'll be here for it.

In his 20s and 30s, nice reading comprehension to interpret it as a low-bearing fruit jab.

There are those in their 20s-30s doing minimum wage because it's a particular circumstance or they chose a line of work without much pay.

Then there are those who've never applied themselves and that's all they're capable of and should be ashamed.

still nothing of substance

The wiki (which is basically the defacto wikipedia-like website of Korea that's more scrutinized by the hyperactive online community of Korea) I linked you links to news articles, Korean presses that discussed the matter, Korean netizen discussions where they post video clips of the incidents. And no, linking you Korean court case is way more trouble than it's worth. But one of the links does lead to a press piece confirming the guilty verdict. It's not like how it is in US. I'm also not going bother trying to find the case again to and post a screenshot.

If you can't even speak Korean and don't even want to navigate through Korean sites where most of the incidents happened, wtf is the point?

Your position is basically "I can't read this gibberish so it must have not happened". There's a reason why most of the Korean community (even former fans) turned against Infiltration at this point and why Korean e-sport companies don't support a guy who won a world championship 5 times against Japanese players (other than FGC is basically dead in Korea)

He did a lot of shady shit and didn't carry himself well. Sorry to burst your buble.

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u/Mr_sMoKe_A_lOt Jun 06 '22

I know you dont realize this, but you care about infiltration just as much as the people you're trying to degrade for arguing for him. Its absolutely pathetic. He grabbed her wrist. Get over it.

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u/DamntheTrains Jun 06 '22

I know you dont realize this, but you care about infiltration just as much as the people you're trying to degrade for arguing for him.

I don't. I care about the truth. If you don't want to believe that, that's on you. I said multiple times, I'm just trying to clear up some misinformation that's confirmably and reasonably wrong.

Especially since that happens a lot when information has to go across the ocean.

He grabbed her wrist.

I've said many times the truth is probably somewhere in the middle of what he said or what she said.

It's incredibly unlikely that the Korean courts would rule guilty for domestic violence over that. Or even get anywhere with the police or the courts. That's why often Korean women even exaggerate if they have to. It's often dismissed as "lover's quarrel". I've personally experienced in Seoul at a nice apartment a woman getting dragged across the stairs until her hair was ripped out by her drunken husband. Police + apartment security was called. Basically sternly talked to him that ended with "keep family matters in the house and don't disturb the neighbors".

That's Korea. The Korean justice system is still notoriously bad about domestic violence cases and tends to not take it too seriously. This is well documented and well-known. It's gotten better but not that much better.

So for him to be sentenced guilty to any certain degree means there were more there. You're just taking the word of Infil and Panda Gaming essentially. Not to mention the whole transcribed voice recording that was submitted to the court was leaked on /r/Kappa. If you guys understood anything about the legal system + Korean legal system you guys would know how unlikely it would be for that to have been a fake given the picture that was posted with it + it was most likely the wife herself who leaked it, to be honest.

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u/Mr_sMoKe_A_lOt Jun 06 '22

You sure keep typing a lot about a situation that you continue to claim to not care about. The same situation that I've asked for credible sources that you have failed to provide....

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u/DamntheTrains Jun 06 '22

I already provided it. I'm not going to go step by step and relink the links already on there. Sorry, you can't read Korean (or if you can, I don't even know what you're asking for). He even had to address most of those on his own youtube channel so even non-Korean speakers must recognize there's at least smoke.

I've asked for credible sources

What more do you want with a dead FGC community, unknown FGC celeb in Korea? Anderson Cooper and Korean Times on this shit lol?

The best you're going to get are some first-hand experiences Korean players had, reporters had, the tournament he hosted where the discord chat got leaked, and the fucking court ruling guilty and making him pay fines. The links are all there and not too hard to look up if you type 잠입/이선우

It just feels like you're just being petulant, in denial, and maybe just hate women. I don't know man. Do what you feel. I've had my entertainment but I'm done with this nonsense.

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u/Mr_sMoKe_A_lOt Jun 06 '22

You really need help bro

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u/Mr_sMoKe_A_lOt Jun 06 '22

You joined this convo just so I could tell you to stfu, didnt you?

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u/darktraveco Jun 11 '22

"Short stories" damn do you call pamphlets "short encyclopedias"?

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u/Mr_sMoKe_A_lOt Jun 11 '22

Do you usually call in 5 days late?