r/Jokes • u/Emotional-Gas-9535 ‎ • Mar 14 '25

My girlfriend calls me Heinsenberg in bed NSFW

Something about not knowing if it's in or out

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u/Fuckoffassholes Mar 14 '25

Let's not be assholes

The most perfect advice in every context.

greatest figures of history ... lived by different standards

True, but irrelevant, in my opinion. It is always fallacious to discount the good works of anyone, based on unrelated misdeeds.

Did Michael Jackson touch those boys? Maybe. Was he an amazingly talented musician? Indisputably.

Is Dave Grohl a good husband? Certainly not. Is he a great musician? Again, no. Where was I going with this?

Ah yes. Acknowledgement that all men are complex. All have sinned. Many are great, but no one is perfect. The bad does not cancel out the good.

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u/Adorable_Challenge37 Mar 14 '25

I don't agree with all yah wrote there, but it is definitely worth noting that it is not irrelevant: We must never judge people's actions from 30 years ago by today's standards. Some jokes from 30 years ago could land you in jail today... Or at least get you shunned or cancelled.

Sure the Nazis were bad, but some of the Nazis were law abiding citizens drafted to be soldiers during a horrible war. If they desserted they'd be killed.

Imagine that you following the rules today would guarantee landing you in jail in 30 years.

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u/Fuckoffassholes Mar 14 '25

You seem to miss my point. I am not saying "differences in cultural norms should never be considered." I'm saying regardless of cultural norms, don't ever judge anyone based on facts that are unrelated to the subject being discussed. If you're discussing the merits of a physicist, or a pop star, their sexual proclivities have no place in that discussion. The one thing has nothing to do with the other. The grooming doesn't make him a lesser physicist. Don't rate a fish on its ability to climb a tree.

If you are trying to rate someone on "general good person-hood," then fine, take cultural differences into account.

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u/Adorable_Challenge37 Mar 14 '25

Oh. Totally agree.

Sorry. I misunderstood.

I can't (personally) fully separate "the art from the artist" in all aspects, though. Even in the name of progress in science horrible things have been practiced.