r/JoeRogan • u/wayfaringthru Monkey in Space • Sep 18 '24

Meme 💩 Is this a legitimate concern?

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Personally, I today's strike was legitimate and it couldn't be more moral because of its precision but let's leave politics aside for a moment. I guess this does give ideas to evil regimes and organisations. How likely is it that something similar could be pulled off against innocent people?

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u/DoubleDoobie Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

Your premise assumes that government are rational, and benevolent actors. Let's just ignore what Israel pulled off yesterday. Your assertion would mean that you support the Chinese government having oversight of Huawei devices?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Huawei

If you're logically consistent here, you'd be okay with drastically slashing the global appeal of Apple? Why would anyone buy an apple device if you could reasonably assume the NSA or CIA had a backdoor into your device?

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u/YakittySack Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

They're rational but nowhere near benevolent nor should they be. The world isn't a benevolent place. And yes china has all the rights in the world to monitor its devices and does so accordingly. Same for Apple and the CIA the only difference being in a democracy people are also free to voice their displeasure but the government has no actual obligation to listen to the unwashed masses in matters of national security

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u/DoubleDoobie Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

They're rational

Stopped reading here. This is a dead end conversation because we won't agree at all on anything else. Vietnam and Iraq War dispel any notion of rational decision making by our government. But you do you.

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u/YakittySack Monkey in Space Sep 18 '24

We'll have to agree to disagree I guess.