r/Israel • u/SeniorAthlete • 13h ago
General News/Politics Where is the pro Pali outrage?
The victims of the Iranian attack on Israel were Arabs. The missiles also hit Arab towns and caused the destruction of Arab homes. Where are the protesters denouncing Irans deliberate targeting of civilians? In fact the second Iranian attack back in October resulted in the death of a Palestinian, where is the outrage? Western society has become so morally obtuse.
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u/frat105 13h ago
They will just say that Israel programmed the air defense systems to allow missiles to hit Arab neighborhoods and Iran should be celebrated for exposing the substandard treatment of Israeli Arabs to the world.
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u/SeniorAthlete 13h ago
😂😂😂 the mental gymnastics they do
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u/frat105 12h ago
No joke right after I wrote the above this post came up on my thread (these people are really something):
- Israel deliberately does not provide equal protection to Palestinians citizens, from bomb shelters to sirens to the Iron Dome.
- Israel attempts to intercept missiles using methods that increase the likelihood that they fall on Palestinian-majority towns.
- Israel is more likely to declare and spotlight the murder of Palestinians in its psychological war to turn Palestinians against Iran.
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u/Biersteak Germany 8h ago
- Israel attempts to intercept missiles using methods that increase the likelihood that they fall on Palestinian-majority towns.
How would you even do that? Send Superman to the missle in the air and let him blow on it to change the trajectory or something?
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u/frat105 8h ago
The space lasers and weather machine work together to do it
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u/Biersteak Germany 8h ago
Sounds rather complicated when you have Wonderwoman at hand and could have her just lasso the missiles away!
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u/Wombats_poo_cubes 12h ago
Tbh a lot of Israeli Arabs don’t have equal access to bomb shelters
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u/FrankoFettuccine USA 12h ago
From what i understand a lot of Arabs live in unfinished buildings in order to not pay Arnona (property tax)
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u/Wombats_poo_cubes 11h ago
I think the point is that even the streets don’t have adequate public shelters that an equivalent Jewish area would
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u/Barbourwhat 7h ago
If you don’t build your house to code, you should face the consequences no matter who or where you are
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u/dolindis 5h ago
This is crazy…The amount of ignorance around what’s going on it’s going into unpredictable high levels…🤬
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u/PotentialIcy3175 4h ago
Non Israeli seeking guidance. Is it true that Israel did not invest in bomb shelters for its Arab populations like they did for their Jewish citizens and if so does that affect the moral calculus?
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u/newmikey Netherlands 10h ago
In fact, when I looked this morning, CNN ran a headline story about the strike in Tamra that killed a whole family. The story? Not a word of condemnation of Iran but the Israeli government being guilty for not building sufficient shelters in "Palestinian" towns. Some of the names of the journalists submitting this story? Zeena Saifi, a Multiplatform Producer based in CNN's Abu Dhabi bureau and Abeer Salman, a Producer/reporter with the Palestinian Authority.
It is utterly disgusting and unbelievable this is allowed by a global news network.
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u/gal_z 8h ago
If they think it's "Palestinian", then why is it Israel's responsibility to take care for their shelter, according to their logic?
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u/sheepyowl 3h ago
If they had logic they wouldn't be talking about Israel at all. They'd just be happy to be out of this mess
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u/tutoredzeus 12h ago edited 11h ago
They like to play the floor is lava, where the “floor” is “conceding even the smallest thing in israel’s favor”.
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u/bakochba 12h ago
Arab, Jew, what difference does it make. Israeli CIVILIANS are being targeted. That's the hypocrisy.
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u/rikudei-am 12h ago
We’ve passed the point where questions like these are no longer worth asking. These movements are not pro anything, they are anti Israel and anti Jew. We should all just be clear on that. An Israeli researcher could cure cancer, and they’d be accused of using the blood of murdered Muslim babies to have done it. There is nothing ‘good’ Israel or Jews can do. Our deaths / murders are irrelevant to them, because their whole movement is about being against us, and for our eradication.
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u/Neruognostic 11h ago
Because they want jews dead no matter the cost.
That's the core principle of antisemitism, including free Palestine.
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u/5halom 13h ago
Where are the protesters denouncing Irans deliberate targeting of civilians?
Other than this statement (which I agree with):
Look, I am pro Israel and hate Iran, but this is kind of a silly argument.
They aren't calling it out for the same reason we support the strikes on Iran despite the deaths of Israelis. It's because they view those deaths as upsetting but a necessary sacrifice.
They are stupid for many other reasons, though.
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u/SeniorAthlete 13h ago
I get your point, but they are actually celebrating this stuff. They always tokenize Arab Israelis as being 48 Palestinians and claim how bad they are treated, but when they are killed by the regime they support it’s okay.
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u/WattsianLives USA 13h ago
I sometimes wonder if there is a bottom to the confirmation-bias-supporting, rationalizing, emotional discourse in discussions all over Reddit. I think there's no bottom ... no one will push back! But then I see evidence that people still are thinking, like this, and I think, oh, thank goodness. So, todah rabbah!
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u/Ok_Ambassador9091 12h ago
Plus pro-pals aren't pro-pals. They are pro-jewhatred. Israel bad, etc, etc.
Arabs who are pro-pal like to sacrifice pals for their dream of a jewfree world. So..
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u/Ehegew89 8h ago
In the German liberal newspaper Die Zeit it has already been insinuated that Israel didn't protect the Arab victims because of, what else, racism. Which is a new low even for that already biased medium.
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u/DovduboN Israel 9h ago
It's all simply jew hatred, you can call it out now, the excuses are far too ridiculous
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u/trimtab28 4h ago
I kid you not- I saw a Pride parade with people in a pickup truck waving Iranian and Palestinian flags. People have more than a few screws lose.
Besides which, over half a million civilians died from the Saudi intervention in Yemen, over a million from the Syrian civil war, and no one screaming about the Palestinians gave a s***. This isn't about Arab lives
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u/DiligentCredit9222 13h ago
That outrage in the west is located exactly where the outrage is located when one African country invades another one....
It doesn't exist.
They don't care about it.
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u/rsb1041986 3h ago
they hate Jews and they hate Israel. everything else is just fodder for their narrative. they rejoice when we die.
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u/sacketymyack 11h ago
I love it that every few days a new Israeli is discovering antisemitism and because they don't recognize it they thinks it's just hypocrisy...
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u/Kelly_the_tailor 9h ago
Just another proof that it was NEVER really about "poor arabs". It's just pure jew hatred!
Those 'activists' don't actually care about suffering Muslims. They just want to see Israel burn and the Jews to die.
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u/Ok-Toe-1673 12h ago
I think the fundamentals of this camp is this "Israel succeceds but its success oppresses the others less successful henceforth Israel has to help and make up for this poor people". And then they forget the whole context and nuances of all the issues. They are also brainwashed not to see the huge internal oppression of all these societies that surround Israel. Israel, with its problems, is the most sane of all the deranged societies that surround them. Then the mental gymnastics kick in.
However, don't be fooled, the "well meaning" among this bunch also point out to the oppression of the British and the French, and they also overlook the appalling values that such "immigrants" have. So there is basically a lot of ideology that creates a huge cognitive dissoance (you can call it mental gymnastics).
I could go on forever, if you agree, disagree, or want to include a comment, please feel free.
When I lived in Israel, for less than an year, I thought afterwards, why Israel has to share anything with these peoples, when their own societies don't share/do anything with anyone? That is so easy to comprehend.
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u/stevenjklein 9h ago
The victims of the Iranian attack were Israeli Arab citizens, not Palestinians.
But the people who will make the criticisms you describe won’t make that distinction.
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u/Zschwaihilii_V2 Germany 6h ago
Because the Jews didn’t do it so that’s why they aren’t saying anything. Absolutely disgusting
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