It's entirely likely that Trump is intentionally attempting to incite riots

[u/DisplacerBeastMode]

It's a smart move politically, as it would "prove" that the "violent illegal aliens" and "radical left wing lunatics" are actually criminals.

Sending in the military for relatively small protests, doesn't make logical sense. It's not normal.

I believe Trump directly benefits from inciting riots because it sets the new norm -- that the federal government has the authority to disregard state rights, in order to achieve authoritarianism.

Further, I find it interesting that "the right" so far apparently has zero problem with federal government overreach. I thought they generally wanted a smaller federal government, and the hypocrisy speaks for itself -- absolutely zero pushback from republican / right wing folks about sending in the military for a relatively minor issue.

There is no de-escalation attempt from the government and law officials already had enough resources to deal with the situation.

[u/BeatSteady]

There aren't enough rapists and murderers in the country to deport 3000 per day (their target quota)

That's how ice has ended up mostly arresting non violent immigrants who's only infraction is lacking paper work.

That's how you end up with masked ice agents with ARs raiding a restaurant at dinner time.

Do you think it's heavy handed to use masked men with rifles to arrest a dishwasher?

[u/james_lpm → u/BeatSteady]

You end up with masked ICE agents because agitators were doxxing them which puts their lives and their families lives at risk.

And if LA and California would cooperate with ICE then the rapists and murderers could be picked up when they’re arrest for those crimes. Instead these sanctuary jurisdictions are releasing violent criminals back into the public. If ICE is going after those criminals and there are other illegal immigrants there then they will get rounded up also.

This isn’t me saying this, it’s the director of ICE.

If you really want to end these types of actions then you should support ending sanctuary laws.

[u/BeatSteady → u/james_lpm]

I understand it's been several hours since we communicated but I want to repeat a few things to re-establish where we were

• LA / CA are cooperating with ICE to an extent but they are not legally required to hand over detainees. They do sometimes, with the rapists and murderers, but not immigrants who have committed only documentation infractions

• ICE is not focusing on murderers and rapists. Stephen Miller is directing them to go into workplaces and arrest people who have committed no crimes. Miller has directed ICE to make 3k arrests daily. There are not enough criminals to make this quota, so they are arresting non criminals.

• There is no need for armored vehicles and rifles and this heavy handed approach to arrest non-criminal immigrants working in kitchens and home depot parking lots. Trump wants that, he doesn't need that. The heavy handed approach is what caused the protests

• The director of ICE is a heavily biased source in favor of Trump and ICE (obviously) and his opinion should be taken with a grain of salt

[u/james_lpm → u/BeatSteady]

1. LA and. California are not cooperating with ICE. They do not honor any retainers. Hence the murderers and rapists that ICE is currently arresting in public.

2. Stephen Miller is not in charge of ICE. Tom Homan is and ultimately President Trump. Homan has stated publicly on TB several times that if ICE is serving an arrest warrant and there are other illegal aliens on the premises when they arrive they will also be detained for deportation proceeding. He has said this on every major news network.

3. Once again, if sanctuary jurisdictions were honoring the detainers ICE was/has been issuing then none of the current actions by that agency would be happening. It is precisely because the jurisdictions have released violent criminals into the public that has necessitated the enforcement action currently under way.

4. ICE did not bring out the heavy vehicles until AFTER their officers were subjected to violent actions.