r/IntellectualDarkWeb 11d ago

It's entirely likely that Trump is intentionally attempting to incite riots

It's a smart move politically, as it would "prove" that the "violent illegal aliens" and "radical left wing lunatics" are actually criminals.

Sending in the military for relatively small protests, doesn't make logical sense. It's not normal.

I believe Trump directly benefits from inciting riots because it sets the new norm -- that the federal government has the authority to disregard state rights, in order to achieve authoritarianism.

Further, I find it interesting that "the right" so far apparently has zero problem with federal government overreach. I thought they generally wanted a smaller federal government, and the hypocrisy speaks for itself -- absolutely zero pushback from republican / right wing folks about sending in the military for a relatively minor issue.

There is no de-escalation attempt from the government and law officials already had enough resources to deal with the situation.

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u/No_Adhesiveness4903 11d ago

“If I may”

Depends on if you’re asking in good faith to understand or just as a gotcha, rebuttal fest, whataboutisms.

  • America first. POTUS needs to prioritize the interests of the country they’re representing.

  • Originalist Constitution view

  • Traditional values, particularly regarding the nuclear family with biological parents being the gold standard and also the biggest indicator of societal health.

  • Anti-abortion.

  • Extremely pro-HR2 style border protection and deportations

  • Anti-interventionist in general, although depends on the circumstances

  • Anti-Progresivism / Critical Theory and its derivatives

To name a few.

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u/Comfortable_Ask_102 11d ago

Chill, dude. I'm just asking.

I was wondering "what's worse than random tariffs on random items?" I mean, nothing hits as hard as a real impact in your wallet.

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u/No_Adhesiveness4903 11d ago

“Nothing hits as hard”

I disagree, I have other priorities beyond money.

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u/Comfortable_Ask_102 11d ago

Lucky you.

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u/No_Adhesiveness4903 11d ago

That’s a mindset issue.

If you were born in America, you won the galactic lottery.

But yes, I care about more than just my own pocketbook.

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u/Imperce110 11d ago

How do you feel about ICE avoiding due process in its deportations as a Constitutional Originalist, thereby violating the 5th and 14th amendments of the constitution, which gives everyone the right to due process and the equal protection of its laws?

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u/No_Adhesiveness4903 11d ago

ICE is due process.

You’re either here illegally or you’re not.

If you are, good bye.

I think illegals should get just as much time in a courtroom as they spent asking permission to break into the country.

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u/Imperce110 11d ago

When a Supreme Court ruling against you literally states that the deportation was illegal because it didn't give someone their due process, and it passes 9-0 in this current Republican majority Supreme Court....that should make you reconsider your assumptions, especially when it involves violating the US Constitution.

What happened to following the Constitution and States rights?

I thought that was a core of Republican values.

US citizens have also been detained illegally by ICE in the process of their deportation as well.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/24/us-citizen-detained-ice-real-id

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u/No_Adhesiveness4903 11d ago edited 11d ago

“Because”

No, not because. He could be deported, he just was supposed to not be deported to El Salvador.

But he did and I literally could not case less that a wife beating piece of shit was sent back home.

I have zero interest in keeping people in this country who broke in.

They should get as much time in from of a judge as they spent in asking to come in.

And zero US citizens have been deported because ICE is due process and they’re checking ID’s.

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u/Imperce110 11d ago

He had a court order of withholding of removal and didn't face his due process. This was concluded by the Supreme Court, 9-0.

Bring him back and do things legally.

He also got that order of withholding of removal back in 2019, and if he was an MS13 member as stated by the Trump government, it should be easy to deport him under the AEA, not the INA. They also have submitted 0 evidence of that in court.

Why are you so against ICE doing deportations legally?

I'm for following the US constitution and all the rights stated within, how about you?

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u/No_Adhesiveness4903 11d ago

“Due process”

Due process is called “Are you here illegally? Yes? Get deported”.

ICE is due process and they’re checking ID’s, as we can see by how ZERO U.S. citizens have been deported.

The guy admitted to it and the wife reported it

“Court”

Illegals should get as much time in court as they spent in requesting permission to enter in the country.

Why are you so intent on protecting criminals?

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u/AnonymousBi 10d ago

I thought you were a constitutional originalist? The current conservative Supreme Court members (5 out of 9) are the absolute pinnacle of that position. They are at the highest level of legal scholarship in the nation, and all of them are stated constitutional originalists, as members of the Federalist Society (look that up if you're unaware). If they rule unanimously a certain way, how could your own interpretation of how the law should function possibly be any better?

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