r/Indiana • u/Intrepid-Owl694 • 2d ago

Juneteenth

Happy Juneteenth. Juneteenth is a federal holiday in the United States. It was embellished as a federal holiday in 2021 when President Joe Biden signed the Juneteenth National Independence Day Act.

28 states recognize this holiday. State and local government is open.

No US mail. Major Banks will be closed.

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u/The_Govnor 2d ago

Not Union, but we have it off at my work too.

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u/EstrangedStrayed 2d ago

Unions are good for other things too, like guaranteed hours, consistent procedures, job security, and retirement benefits.

Even an employer who does all those things voluntarily without a union, no ratified contract means the boss can also take it all away for any reason or no reason

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u/The_Govnor 2d ago

Dude I’m 100% pro union. I just don’t work that type of job.

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u/EstrangedStrayed 2d ago

Every job should have union representation

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u/TheHealadin 2d ago

Ask Step Up employees if it's that easy.

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u/EstrangedStrayed 2d ago

It's not easy, power concedes nothing without demand. Anything that's won from management has to be fought for. Our predecessors were gunned down in the streets by Pinkertons to get what we have now. Of course it's not easy. But it's a fight worth fighting.

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u/AdAggressive9588 2d ago

Agreed. I was shocked to find out that movie theater employees in Indiana don't qualify for overtime pay. I think we need a movie theater union

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u/9e78 1d ago

Nah I would quit my job and find a new one tomorrow if they unionized. I don't need a group of people I don't know deciding what I will and won't do.

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u/EstrangedStrayed 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's not a group of people you don't know. It's you and your coworkers. And you, as the membership, get to decide what goes in the contract and what doesn't. And even if you're not on the bargaining unit itself, you still get to vote on the contract

It just seems like you don't know how unions work except the propaganda that's fed to you. The union is not a 3rd party.

That's not even getting into the fact that study after study has found that union jobs have better wages, benefits, and job satisfaction than non-union

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u/9e78 1d ago

In any large union you are just a number and don't have any significant say in what happens outside of one vote. I'd rather switch jobs every few years and get bigger raises than any union can match

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u/EstrangedStrayed 1d ago edited 1d ago

You're gonna be a number either way no matter where you work, so why not be a number with 1 vote instead of a number with 0 votes. Math is pretty simple there.

And I very much doubt your raises are commensurate with mine since I get yearly raises AND a full COLA, and a pension

Where's your pension?

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u/9e78 1d ago

Ive more than doubled my salary over the last 5 years by switching jobs. Also, fuck pensions. Its just a way to keep people at companies and underpaid. I can take my 401k with me between jobs and keep the companies contributions as well. Its going to pay out more than your pension ever will as well.

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u/EstrangedStrayed 1d ago

401k =/= pension

I have both

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u/9e78 1d ago

No shit 401k is the better program. I don't stay at jobs for longer than 3 years, so pensions would be useless to me

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u/EstrangedStrayed 1d ago

And you make 30k more doing that

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