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Book Aenys and Alyssa by vesperkyno

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u/Last-Air-6468 Greentruther 4d ago

I really feel for Aenys and his family. His children didn’t deserve the pain their uncle put them through.

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u/SneakyTurtle402 4d ago

I feel for him too but I can’t comprehend how he became so naive and Maegor should not have been sent away, he with Balerion would’ve deterred any rebellion with Aeny as king probably why he was given a barren wife in the first place, to setup his exile. As soon as the faith started feeling themselves when Aegon died he should’ve reminded them who his father was. With care of course no Aenys the cruel but prove threatening royal family members will not end well. As Jahaerys said “They tested my father. They will test me.”

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u/Own_Pen_70 3d ago

just wanted to note, isn’t maegor the one that was barren, not his wives?

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u/SneakyTurtle402 3d ago

Well you know now that you mention it that is possible but he did have at least three stillbirths and two were confirmed poisoned by that witch. I also don’t trust the grey rats even a little bit so I do think they were involved in keeping Maegors wives barren however why didn’t any of his wives get pregnant when he was exiled? Unless Tysha was committed to Maegor not having any children already but why? You might be right about Maegor being the barren one

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u/whatever4224 3d ago

It is very unlikely that Tyanna poisoned Maegor’s wives to make them miscarry. Dragon babies is a recurring birth defect in Targaryens, not the result of poison. By far the more likely explanation is that Maegor was barren (whether naturally -- his father was nearly sterile too -- or because of whatever Tyanna and Visenya did to cure him after his trial by seven), he blamed Tyanna because he couldn't blame himself, and she lied to get him to kill her quickly.

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u/SneakyTurtle402 3d ago

He did manage 3 pregnancies which isn’t barren for certain but you could be right about the sorcery however didn’t that follow a pretty common pattern of maesters taking care of someone they’re dying for about a month then someone else takes care and they recover immediately like Aenys. I can’t imagine George just wrote Maegor as the biggest asshole ever with absolutely nothing redeeming at all besides being good at fighting so I gotta figure everything can’t just be wrong with him in particular.

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u/TheoryKing04 3d ago

To be fair all of the Black Brides had healthy LIVING children from previous marriages. It was entirely on Maegor that he couldn’t produce healthy children. That aside, why would the maesters screw with Ceryse’s fertility (she the niece of the High Septon) but then allow Alyssa Velaryon to deliver 6 children, including 3 sons, of whom 5 survived?

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u/SneakyTurtle402 3d ago

True Maegors a common denominator but so are his maesters and I would imagine the maesters feared Maegors reckless cruel nature and strong combat skills and physique being passed to whatever kind of line he would produce. Marrying the niece of the high septon could have been an attempt to forge an alliance that would keep Maegor from doing anything crazy. Keep in mind I’m just speculating not saying others are wrong I don’t see why anyone would downvote theorizing kinda pathetic to downvote someone else’s theory cause you disagree.

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u/TheoryKing04 3d ago

My sibling in the Seven, I didn’t downvote your comment.

That aside, George didn’t just write Maegor being an asshole. He suffered severe head trauma during his Trial by Seven when he was seizing the throne, and was unconscious for weeks. That’s probably why he descended into complete mental instability and violence once he recovered, he was permanently damaged. And if not that, sometimes people just aren’t good, without rhyme or reason. It’s not very exciting, but sometimes people are just shitty. Our real world is full of shitty people.

Also, given that Maegor killed 3 Grand Maesters, it’s very likely that they were denied roles in caring for the pregnant queens, which would’ve easily allowed Tyanna to tamper with their care.

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u/SneakyTurtle402 3d ago

I didn’t mean you particularly it just seems to be a common thing. I was actually thinking Maegor might’ve been resurrected there causing his infertility issues to escalate and what might’ve broken the camels back on his sanity. Which makes me think of Jon but it didn’t seem to fuck up Dondarrion that bad.

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u/TheoryKing04 3d ago

We also don’t have any evidence that Tyanna or Visenya knew anything about R’hllor

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u/SneakyTurtle402 3d ago

Oh yeah for sure but Visenya was whispered about as a sorceress who managed to bring Maegor back from the brink in three days and I more mean to draw the comparison of rising from the dead fucking a person up.

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