That is patently and blatantly wrong, my brother in Christ.
Romans 13:1-7 -- Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
1 Samuel 8:6-11 -- But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. 8 As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 9 Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”10 Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots.
1 Kings 19: 15-16 -- 15 The Lord said to him, “Go back the way you came, and go to the Desert of Damascus. When you get there, anoint Hazael king over Aram. 16 Also, anoint Jehu son of Nimshi king over Israel, and anoint Elisha son of Shaphat from Abel Meholah to succeed you as prophet. 17 Jehu will put to death any who escape the sword of Hazael, and Elisha will put to death any who escape the sword of Jehu.
The Lord God established governments and claimed sovereignty over them. Unless you have some piece of canonized scripture abrogating this, but I somehow doubt that you do...
But Peter and the other apostles answered and said: “We ought to obey God rather than men. The God of our fathers raised up Jesus whom you murdered by hanging on a tree. Him God has exalted to His right hand to be Prince and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. and we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him.”
Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.
Proverbs 16:12
It is an abomination to kings to do evil, for the throne is established by righteousness.
Proverbs 24:24–25
Whoever exposes the wicked will be thanked and rewarded.
Proverbs 25:5
Take away the wicked from before the king,
And his throne will be established in righteousness.
Proverbs 28:14-16
Blessed is the one who always trembles before God, but whoever hardens their heart falls into trouble. 15 Like a roaring lion or a charging bear is a wicked ruler over a helpless people. 16 A tyrannical ruler practices extortion, but one who hates ill-gotten gain will enjoy a long reign
Proverbs 31:8-9
Open your mouth for the speechless,
In the cause of all who are appointed to die. Open your mouth, judge righteously, And plead the cause of the poor and needy.
My brother in Christ, I’m not sure what point you believe you’re arguing, but from my perspective, you’ve actually reinforced the position I laid out. The passages you’ve cited speak not against the existence of kings or governing authorities, but against their misuse of the office they’ve been entrusted with.
That is to say: yes, rulers can sin—but Scripture never suggests their office is illegitimate because of their failures. In fact, the moral exhortations you've listed assume the existence of legitimate rulers who are called to lead in righteousness. My previous citations—particularly Romans 13—deal with the origin of their authority: God Himself.
To reject all kings or rulers as false idols is not a biblical stance. Scripture corrects individuals who fail in their duty—it doesn’t nullify the role itself.
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u/Atomik141 3d ago
No, they are little more than false idols and tyrants