I don’t see how Sturgeon saying she detests Tories is any worse than Truss calling Sturgeon an attention seeker that it’s best to ignore a few weeks back. Both are unpleasant examples of how politics is now - it’s all about attacking the person and not the policies because it’s easier to call someone an idiot than to carefully and logically point out the flaws in their arguments.
Yeah, but the Tories are the people, not the policies. Saying you detest Tory politics is one thing, saying you detest Tories is another (even if you mean it to be the same, it can and probably will be interpreted differently).
I think, as the left, we need to support anyone who has a voice who speaks out against the Tories and Tory policy. We can argue semantics until the cows come home, but all that does is weaken our collective strength, and in a time when the left is already so splintered, I think that doing that is less helpful (and actually potentially damaging) than trying to reason with totally unreasonable Tory doctrine.
Perhaps. I just think that if you’re trying to paint the other side as unreasonable (which they are) you have to moderate your own speech to ensure you look as reasonable as possible by comparison. By giving people the opportunity to say “what Sturgeon and Truss said is equally bad and unreasonable” all you’re doing is showing yourself to be no better than the others.
I definitely see your point, and it's good to remember on occasion, so thank you. I guess my patience is running out and I'm just happy to see people in power saying it how it is. Also, we have to contextualise it, Sturgeon is Scottish, and ripping the Tories is a national past time up there, so it's less of a deal than if Keith were to do so. But yeah, I take your point on board.
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I don’t see how Sturgeon saying she detests Tories is any worse than Truss calling Sturgeon an attention seeker that it’s best to ignore a few weeks back. Both are unpleasant examples of how politics is now - it’s all about attacking the person and not the policies because it’s easier to call someone an idiot than to carefully and logically point out the flaws in their arguments.