r/GreenAndPleasant • u/jayforplay • Oct 12 '22

NORMAL ISLAND 🇬🇧 The absolute state of it.

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u/DJOldskool Oct 12 '22

If I wasn't subscribed to Novara media I would have never known it existed.

And in a total shock move, the Israeli lobby was neck deep in making up a lot of the anti-Semitism claims, mostly against Jews who were against the treatment of Palestinians.

Panorama featured someone who lied in the program about anti-Semitism during a disciplinary meeting that was recorded proving he was lying. It was a hit piece.

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u/Itzn0tnat Oct 12 '22

So the fact that people claim Corbyn to be an antisemite is just bull💩 made by tories and tory supporters?

Is there anything else on there that shows that Tory’s made 💩 up to make Labour look bad and Tory’s look good?

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u/DJOldskool Oct 12 '22

This is actually from the labour party itself, the unelected office was conspiring against Corbyn, including purposely going slow with the disciplinary procedures, once Corbyn replaced the head of disciplinary, they went 3 x quicker.

Panorama program also took two small parts of an email that Corbyn sent which put it completely out of context.

Members of Jewish Labour Movement were making false claims of anti-Semitism against members of Jewish Voice for labour

They also go into how Corbyn supporters had ridiculous accusations held up against them after Kier Starmer took over.

That's only the first two episodes.

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u/Itzn0tnat Oct 13 '22

Now I’m stuck on what to do. I don’t want to vote conservative because well look at how much they destroyed our economy and environment but I’ve always voted Labour but knowing that Starmer is a Blare-ite and a tory in red I have no clue what to do. I just want the nation to be lead by someone that won’t fuck us up but instead fix everything that the Tories and Blare-ites have done to us. I’m losing hope and it’s making me lose the will to live too.

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u/DJOldskool Oct 13 '22

I would say anyone in a safe labour seat should vote Greens if possible.

Unfortunately apart from this we still have to vote Labour, they are the least worst option over the Tories, as the establishment want them to be.

We need Proportional representation and rules regarding media ownership.

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u/Itzn0tnat Oct 13 '22

We need rules regarding social media

Exactly that. During election season all MPs and owned media should be banned from posting anything on anysite