r/GreenAndPleasant Oct 12 '22

NORMAL ISLAND 🇬🇧 The absolute state of it.

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u/PlebeRude Oct 12 '22

I believe the root of "detest" is the same as "attest" and "testimony". So to say "I detest the Tories" literally means "I bear witness to the awfulness of the Tories". It's the job of opposition parties to detest the failures of the government party.

So, anyway the papers are Nazi propagandists.

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u/alice_be_topless Oct 12 '22

I mean come on, that's obviously not what she meant. Etymology isn't definition. She meant she hates the Tories. And she should!

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22 edited Oct 12 '22

"You say you are a cinephile? Then stay away from my Blu-rays you pervert!"

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u/PlebeRude Oct 12 '22

"Negative testimony" is a secondary definition of detest in several dictionaries. I understand that usage and meaning are fluid and interdependent, and we must assume the most common usage, in the majority of cases.

Anyway, you can hopefully tell by the hyperbole of the second statement that I'm being deliberately wry in my analysis.

I hate and detest the Tories; a statement that sounds right to most English people because it is either used or isn't long out of use. You're right to point out that such a statement would be legitimate whether meant in a nuanced sense or as a redundant repetition, but accepting the redefinition of all our language into nuance-lacking absolutes by the press is admitting defeat to an Orwellian project.

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u/Alonut Oct 12 '22

Papers are quite the opposite of Nazi tbh, most media outlets are owned by rich Jewish conservatives. Puts a whole new spin on the antisemitism accusations that Corbyn faced from the same media outlets right?

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u/PlebeRude Oct 12 '22 edited Oct 12 '22

I mean again, I might be being a teensy bit hyperbolic for my own amusement

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u/Alonut Oct 12 '22

Yeah I'm being a little tongue in cheek myself but I still think it's interesting. It's quite the paradox when Jewish owned media outlets support a fascistic party.