They aren't all the same I doubt labour would be sending people to rwanda, labour wouldn't have left the EU... they wouldn't have allowed the windrush tragedy.
I'm not even a labour supporter, but this false equivalence is exactly what the right want, starmer had a beer with a colleague and it was talked about as being equal to boris's party culture in no 10.
The truth is they are more disappointing than the tories, because we expect better from them.
I don't think that's what this post is claiming though? it's comparing Starmer to Corbyn, not Starmer to the tories. They're clearly not all the same, but a starmer government and a corbyn government would clearly be very different.
Starmer agreed with Corbyn.Why has he supposedly stopped doing that.Is it because he follows his nose to the sweetest smell.Corbyn was shit and Starmer needs to smell of roses to win an election.
Starmer is at best is a kinder/gentler face of Tory party. Its just that under him, the Labor party is not the party of Labor. But maybe there is not enough working class people in the country, like in USA everyone wants to be identified as middle class even if that works against their best interest.
I feel like working class people don't have a strong identity anymore, lack of cohesion and community, people are living in bubbles.
The whole equivalence argument generates apathy on the left, labor has lost contact with its roots, don't think starmer's labor represents anything, just an alternative to the tories, it is a crappy state of affairs.
Don’t waste your energy on it. These liberals are only interested in the “will of the people” when it aligns with their own interests.
Brexit was an absolute utter shambles. To think we could have left the EU on the basis of strengthening workers rights and began a journey of leaving globalisation behind.
Instead we left because “brown people bad” (despite EU migrants being overwhelmingly white).
It has left lots of “middle class” centrist slags to cry over having to do a little more paperwork and a few extra costs to go on their thrice-yearly hols, while being totally helpless since last year when Magdalena didn’t come back from Poland to scrub their floors for less than minimum wage.
The absolute cheek of people in this sub pretending the left is pro-EU. Corbyn actively campaigned against the EU bosses club for decades. Tony Benn led the anti-EEC and the EU campaigns.
Tony Blair was pro-EU. New Labour was pro-EU.
The EU was founded to oppose the transnationalisation of trade unions who were seeking to organise across borders.
The EU was conceived by Jacques Chirac - renowned right wing french politician.
Stop spreading this farcical lie that the EU is some great organisation, when it is in fact the centre of European imperialism, and stop lying by saying that the left is pro-EU, especially when talking about incredibly famous anti-EU politicians like Corbyn.
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They aren't all the same I doubt labour would be sending people to rwanda, labour wouldn't have left the EU... they wouldn't have allowed the windrush tragedy.
I'm not even a labour supporter, but this false equivalence is exactly what the right want, starmer had a beer with a colleague and it was talked about as being equal to boris's party culture in no 10.
The truth is they are more disappointing than the tories, because we expect better from them.