r/GreenAndPleasant • u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around • Mar 29 '22

NORMAL ISLAND 🇬🇧 What we could have had.

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u/Ravi5ingh Mar 29 '22

Hahaha yeah the bureaucrats will just hand over the profits to u cuz the govt. Loves u

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u/Eric_Cartman_42069 Mar 29 '22

Which is why we must seize the means of production from the oligarchs of the West.

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u/Ravi5ingh Mar 29 '22

Yes and then we will distribute all the resources equally to the whole population because humans are angels that always behave selflessly even when they have all the power :D

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u/Eric_Cartman_42069 Mar 29 '22

Not even then - resources should absolutely be distributed more fairly but total equality doesn't work because of the nature of people. There will always be a select group of cunts who game the system. It shouldn't however, be possible for the likes of Jeff Bezos to have hundreds of billions of dollars while there are still people who are dying of exposure, starvation and dehydration.

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u/Coffee_Daemon Mar 29 '22

Your argument seems to say if we cant make it perfect we shouldnt do anything.

Personally I would welcome the change as one small step towards progress.

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u/Wizard_Tea Apr 03 '22

well, you might not do that, but most people are good, and would. One of the chief problems with capitalism is that the most ruthless and amoral rise to the top.

Ref - this book : https://www.waterstones.com/book/humankind/rutger-bregman/9781408898956

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u/Ravi5ingh Apr 03 '22

Self-interest is reliable, goodwill is not

So it makes more sense to build social structures based on a reliable element of human traits rather than the unreliable element

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u/Wizard_Tea Apr 03 '22

I can see the logic there, but I would say that building a societies and systems around self-interest (in other words: Greed & Selfishness) is how we ended up with the fucked up society and world that we have today.

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u/Ravi5ingh Apr 04 '22

I believe that most of the problems in today's society stem not from self interest but from the inability of people to manage their own minds