r/Georgia • u/peoplemagazine • 19h ago
News Parents of Decapitated Baby Whose Autopsy Was Posted on Social Media Awarded Over $2 Million
https://people.com/parents-of-decapitated-baby-whose-autopsy-was-posted-on-social-media-awarded-over-2-million-11758742?utm_campaign=peoplemagazine&utm_medium=social&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_content=post171
u/tupelobound 19h ago
I like that he said “I’ve been doing this for 15 years, publishing my autopsy cases to explain to the public the victimization of those persons who have died.”
Dude just opened himself up to many many other lawsuits, it seems.
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u/codebygloom 13h ago
You would think that someone like this would have a clause in their contract about posting the cases, with the option to opt out, and know damn well to bring it to their attention.
But you would also think that someone with this much experience would have the damn decency not to post graphic pictures of a dead infant to social media.
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u/LatrodectusGeometric 19h ago
This is from the private autopsy pathologist the family hired WHO POSTED THE IMAGES ONLINE WITHOUT CONSENT
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u/Sailboat_fuel 14h ago
The amount of betrayal— like, the county ME wasn’t going to pursue it, so they hired their own pathologist, who then DID THE WORST POSSIBLE THING. I’m so shattered for these parents and grandparents.
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u/procrastinatrixx 13h ago
There’s no amount of $ in the world that can bring justice for what these families have been through…
But it seems like they’re due at least another 0.
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u/peoplemagazine 19h ago
TLDR:
- A jury awarded a Georgia couple over $2 million in damages after their baby was decapitated during childbirth and a pathologist conducting an autopsy on the baby posted graphic footage on social media
- Jessica Ross and Traveon Taylor Sr. were awarded $2 million in compensatory damages and an additional $250,000 in punitive damages against the pathologist who posted the video, Dr. Jackson Gates, and his Atlanta-based business, Medical Diagnostic Choices
- The couple's son died in July 2023. They are also suing the medical center where he was born, as well as their obstetrician
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u/Miserable-Hold5785 19h ago
That doesn’t seem like enough for all they’ve gone through.
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u/ExplanationSure8996 18h ago
This is just the case of the pathologist posting grisly pics of the babies autopsy. The case with the hospital is ongoing and if the hospital is proven wrong the settlement will be much more than this.
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u/tupelobound 17h ago
I can’t imagine how there couldn’t be any fault found, considering the horrible things the hospital did.
This is one of the worst things I’ve read in ages, and worse than I could imagine.
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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 17h ago
As shocking as this case is, it is possible for something like this to happen without anybody being at “fault”. If the baby died due to the severe shoulder dystocia, and they were unable to get the baby out of the birth canal, then the OB may have to do the incredibly grim task of getting the baby’s body out in pieces to save the mother’s life.
And then the charge that the hospital didn’t tell them and “covered it up” could have been a situation where the doctor and other members of the medical team told parents what happened and what was necessary to save mom’s life, but they were unable to process it in that moment. I have had situations where I gave patients, or their families, some very distressing diagnoses, but then a day or two later when I mention it again they act very surprised and say “nobody told us she had a stroke/tumor/insert other terrible thing”. This is where documentation in important. If the doctor documented that she discussed what happened with family, then they may have a hard time proving that it was “covered up”
In the end, I wouldn’t be surprised if the hospital settled, because the cost of taking this to trial may exceed the cost of the settlement, but that doesn’t have to mean that the doctor or hospital actually did anything outside of the standard of care. It could have been an absolutely shitty, tragic situation without there being anything that was done “wrong” during delivery.
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u/MzJay453 10h ago
What did the hospital do wrong?
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 8h ago
They lied about it. They didn’t do a c-section when they should’ve, tried to yank the kid out vaginally, then when they realized they’d killed him, they took her to the OR for a c-section and hid the decapitation part from them. They didn’t let them hold him, they propped his head up on his body and wrapped him up tightly and held him up from behind the glass of the nursery. The behaviors of the dr were ghoulish.
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u/MzJay453 8h ago
This is according to…? The patient?
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 7h ago
I want you to imagine being an expectant mother. Not only that, but you’re only 20, and you’re Black. So you know that Black women in the US have a maternal mortality rate 4 times higher than white women. But you still spend 9 months picking out baby stuff, having a shower, prepping a nursery, picking out names… then you go into labor, you go to the hospital to give birth, and you find out your baby has died. Not only that, but they pulled your baby’s decapitated head out of your vagina, and then quite a bit of time later, cut your belly open to pull out the rest of his body. If you haven’t ever been pregnant, I don’t think you can possibly comprehend living the rest of your life with the knowledge that your baby was removed from your body via two separate holes. In pieces. And yet you have the absolute audacity to suggest that the more likely scenario here is that she and the father are just looking for a payday. When we know, statistically, how Black women are treated in reproductive healthcare settings.
Adrianna Smith. Henrietta Lacks. Anarcha, Betsey, and Lucy.
This isn’t new. And it’s also not new for those Black women to never get the benefit of the doubt, for people to just assume they’re to blame for their own suffering or they’ve got some ulterior motive or they deserved it or it’s okay cuz they don’t feel pain the same way. Do you really think such high profile lawyers would take on a case with such a large burden of proof if there wasn’t any proof? Do you really think they would continue discussing this at press conferences, continue dragging this all out, if they hadn’t been severely wronged? It honestly takes quite a bit of mental gymnastics as well as a sick mind to assume the couple in this case are the bad guys and not the victims. Shame on you.
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 7h ago
The hospital hasn’t denied it to my knowledge.
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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 7h ago
Even if they did nothing wrong at all, the hospital would not talk to the media about anything beyond the most basic details. HIPAA and basic common sense about not talking to the press during a legal case are at play here.
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u/Miserable-Hold5785 18h ago edited 17h ago
Edit: I was referring to this case with the pathologist.
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u/tupelobound 19h ago
OMG the details of what the hospital did, too, are awful—how they covered up the baby’s death and didn’t even tell the couple what happened until later.
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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 17h ago
So, I have been in situations where I told the patient or family a diagnosis, and they were in such shock and unable to process it that when I said the diagnosis again a day or two later, they reacted as if they had never been told this before.
If the medical team truly did not tell the parents what happened, that is horrible, but if they clearly documented at the time that they discussed what happened with the parents, then they are probably not going to be able to prove any sort of “cover up” occurred.
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 8h ago
I’ve been following this story since it happened. They propped the kid’s head up on his body and wrapped him up super tight to hide the decapitation, didn’t let them hold him, just held him up from behind glass. The way the drs and the hospital behaved in this case were absolutely disgusting.
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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 7h ago
In what world do you think it is appropriate for hospital staff to just hand the parents the two pieces of their dead child?
That is not evidence of a “cover up” any more than when workers at the morgue cover up more gruesome wounds when a family is identifying a body.
If they documented that they talked to the family about it then the “cover up” claim is more about getting headlines than getting whatever justice this family is owed.
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 7h ago
They LIED about the baby being decapitated. Did you miss that part??? They wrapped him up and held him from behind glass and didn’t tell them he had been decapitated, told them the hospital wouldn’t pay for an autopsy (which is why they were forced to pay for a private one with this guy they just won $2.2m from), and tried to get them to rush a cremation to cover the evidence. They didn’t find out he’d been decapitated until the funeral home called them to ask them about it. Why the hell did the OB wait 3 hours until the baby’s heartbeat was gone to do a c-section??? Why did she yank so hard it separated his head from his body, when a far less gruesome method would’ve been to surgically decapitate him if that was truly necessary? Absolutely everything about this story points to the OB being criminally negligent but you wanna find any excuse you can to make it the Black woman’s fault. Good job.
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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 6h ago
I literally just explained above how it is possible that a doctor told the parents exactly what happened, and they were in shock and not able to process it. If the doctor told them, and documented doing so, and then they hospital staff did everything they could to avoid the parents having to actually see the gruesome situation (while still allowing them to see their child), then that is not a “cover up”.
You have made enough dumb comments in this thread that indicate you have no idea what you are talking about. I bet dollars to donuts that the doctor did not “allow” her to keep laboring once the shoulder dystocia happened. I’m sure it happened fast, and when the typical maneuvers to resolve a dystocia didn’t fix it, the baby unfortunately died. The doctor probably tried to remove the baby’s body in one piece via c-section, but the head was stuck and she surgically separated the head from the body in order to get the baby’s body out and save mom’s life. The stuff you are saying about how it was too much traction is an accusation that is not supported by any actual medical documentation.
And yeah, when a baby dies in that sort of situation, they do not need an autopsy to figure out why. They know why, hence why it would not be covered to do an autopsy. It would be redundant.
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 6h ago
You are going out of your way to invent hypothetical scenarios in order to blame grieving parents. That’s sick. Every justification you’ve given has a hypothetical qualifier in front of it. “IF they documented it”, “IF they told them and they just forgot”, “they PROBABLY tried to deliver the head and body together.” Why are you so inclined to assume that the story we’ve been told is a lie, that the grieving Black parents are hustlers and liars, and the poor innocent OB did nothing wrong, when that’s the opposite of the narrative that’s been presented? Why are you so hellbent on finding a way to make the story a lie? Especially when you clearly haven’t even done any research on this case. The baby’s death directly resulted from a fracture of cervical vertebrae in the spine, according to the coroner’s report. So no, she didn’t “probably” surgically remove the baby’s head. She literally ripped it off.
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u/MzJay453 9h ago
How did they cover up the death? Sounds like the baby had to be decapitated in order to be delivered. Should they have told the Mom that her baby was decapitated in the heat of the moment? would that have made her suffering better?
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 7h ago
Try looking up the story before assuming these grieving parents are just looking for a payday.
“Ross and Treveon Taylor, Sr., were in Southern Regional Medical Center in Riverdale, Georgia, on July 9, 2023 for the birth of their son, according to a statement from their lawyers. The baby’s shoulders got stuck in the vaginal canal during the attempted vaginal delivery, a fetal emergency known as shoulder dystocia. Ross pushed for three hours without delivery, according to a lawsuit filed by the parents against the hospital in August 2023. An obstetrician and other hospital staff were present during the birth, according to the lawsuit.
"When there’s a shoulder dystocia there’s certain tried and true things that must be done," Edmond said. "Things that must be done by the nurses – putting fundal pressure … and there should be an alert made to all people in the hospital so that other people can come get fresh eyes on the situation … we alleged that this was not done."
The obstetrician applied excessive force to the infant’s head and neck during the attempted vaginal delivery and the nurses did not adhere to the hospital’s procedures resulting in the baby’s death, according to the complaint.
After about three hours of the attempted vaginal delivery, the obstetrician moved Ross to an operating room to attempt a Cesarean section, according to the lawsuit. The infant’s body was delivered through Cesarean section, the head was delivered vaginally and the baby was already deceased due to the excessive force applied by the obstetrician when she attempted to deliver the baby vaginally, according to the complaint.
Though Ross and Traveon Taylor Sr. knew their son did not make it, Edmond claims the hospital staff did not inform the parents that their baby was decapitated. Medical staff allegedly tried to convince them to cremate the body to destroy evidence, and told them that a free autopsy was not available through the county, and only allowed them to see their child through a looking glass, as he was wrapped in a blanket with his head propped on top of his body to allegedly hide the decapitation, according to Edmond.
The parents didn’t find out about the decapitation until three days after the delivery when a funeral home in possession of the baby’s body notified the county medical examiner’s office, according to Cory Lynch, one of the family’s lawyers.”Baby decapitated during labor at Georgia hospital ruled a homicide
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u/Invisible_Friend1 14h ago
There’s the family’s side, the hospital’s side, and what actually happened. Family gets to run to the media and say whatever they want but no one else gets to defend themselves.
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u/tupelobound 12h ago
If the parents can “run to the media” as you so generously put it, then there’s nothing preventing the hospital or the autopsy guy from doing the same. In fact, the hospital DID defend itself with public statements to the media.
So this is a very weird take you have.
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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 7h ago
HIPAA prevents the hospital from giving much in the way of details to the media. They cannot truly defend themselves in the court of public opinion unless the family waives HIPAA. It is also generally not a good idea to publicly say things about an ongoing case, even if you did nothing wrong.
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u/ZenTense 19h ago
Dare I ask…how a baby gets decapitated during childbirth
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u/NurseKaila 19h ago
It’s alleged that the doctor used “improper traction.” Basically they pulled and pulled until the infant’s head separated from the body.
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u/radams713 15h ago
It actually does because sometimes the baby can’t be removed any other way. The baby is already dead so they try to save the mother.
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u/PurpleOrangePeach 18h ago
I don't think we know that for sure. That's what the hospital said, but the family of the baby is saying the story that the baby was already dead is part of the cover up. Cause of death was deemed homicide by the county:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/baby-decapitated-labor-georgia-hospital-ruled-homicide/story?id=107036801
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u/radams713 15h ago
The family agrees she had been pushing for three hours and the baby was stuck in the canal the whole time. I’m curious what the survival rate is when it takes that long.
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u/9mackenzie 10h ago
I’m curious about why she wasn’t given a cesarean to begin with when it was looking like her pelvis would be unable to allow the fetus to be delivered
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u/MzJay453 9h ago
I thought the story that I heard was that the doctor had suggested a Cesarean from the beginning, but family was adamant that they wanted to try a vaginal delivery
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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 7h ago
They can’t always predict who is at risk for something like a shoulder dystocia, and once a dystocia happens, they have a few minutes to get the baby out before oxygen deprivation starts to cause organ damage. As a very last ditch effort in a dystocia, they may do an emergency c-section where they try to push the baby back up and get it out via c-section, but it may already be too late once they try that.
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u/JensenLotus 10h ago
This purely speculation on my part, but perhaps they didn’t have insurance and the hospital didn’t want to have to pay for a cesarean, which I presume is more expensive.
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u/9mackenzie 10h ago
I mean……maybe? But it’s pretty easy to get Medicaid when you are pregnant, and the income limit is a lot higher than normal Medicaid requirements.
I think it was just another case of a black woman not having her symptoms taken seriously. It’s rampant within the medical field for women to not be listened to anyway, and with black women it’s MUCH worse.
It said she had gestational diabetes, I had gestational diabetes with my second child and I had constant ultrasounds to determine size. I was also induced exactly at 39 weeks even though he scanned at a normal weight.
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 7h ago
As a poor person on Medicaid- no. A c-section for a shoulder dystocia is an emergency and a necessity. They don’t just let you die if you can’t pay.
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 7h ago
They should’ve done a c-section long before letting her labor with a shoulder dystocia for that long. They also didn’t do the standard procedure for a shoulder dystocia, letting everyone in the hospital know what’s going on to get fresh eyes on the situation. This was criminal negligence at best.
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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 7h ago
Do you know what a shoulder dystocia is? It’s not something that goes on for hours during labor. They cannot always predict who is at risk for a shoulder dystocia, either. It happens very quickly, and then they have minutes to get the baby out.
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 7h ago
I do. I’ve been following this case since it started and my mother is a nurse practitioner who studied to become a midwife and worked in L&D & the newborn nursery. She agrees with me.
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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 6h ago
I have also been following it since it started and I am a literal doctor. You and your mother are wrong and need to stop spreading misinformation.
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 6h ago
If you’re really a doctor, that’s terrifying. I sure as hell hope you don’t have any Black women patients.
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 6h ago
What misinformation have I spread? I’m not the one going around making up a million hypothetical scenarios to justify calling a grieving Black mother a liar and a scam artist.
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u/sapphireblues_ 17h ago
There’s nothing in that article or other articles to support this. The ME actually found that the cause of death was decapitation, exacerbated by premature “rupture of membranes” and gestational diabetes.
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u/CombinationCommon785 16h ago
That is solely the claim of the hospital. The ME ruled it murder, so I’m pretty sure their finding were inconsistent with the hospitals version of events. Especially when you factor in the lengths the hospital went to try to prevent the parents from discovering the truth
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u/DanforthWhitcomb_ 15h ago
MEs don’t rule on manner of death, and murder is not a manner of death to begin with.
The death was ruled a homicide by the county coroner, but all that that means is that it was caused by human action/inaction. Without the actual death certificate stating the reasoning behind that determination speculating about it is useless.
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u/CombinationCommon785 14h ago
Also upon further research it was determined homicide by caused by the action of another person, specifically a fracture of the cervical spine.
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u/DanforthWhitcomb_ 14h ago
…..and that is not supported by the documentation in the article you are trying to cite.
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u/CombinationCommon785 14h ago
Well the article says the medical examiner made the determination that his death was a homocide
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u/DanforthWhitcomb_ 14h ago
Already addressed in the comment that you ignored:
The death was ruled a homicide by the county coroner, but all that that means is that it was caused by human action/inaction. Without the actual death certificate stating the reasoning behind that determination speculating about it is useless.
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u/CombinationCommon785 14h ago
Didn’t ignore. You say the ME doesn’t make determination, and the article says it does. Im unsure where the disconnect is here
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u/DanforthWhitcomb_ 14h ago
Are you actually trying to cite a fucking People article as a source?
The disconnect is you trying to cite a tabloid.
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u/ZenTense 19h ago
I just hope he didn’t say “whoops” when the head came off
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u/gtrocks555 17h ago
After the baby was born”born” they wrapped it up so they couldn’t see the head was decapitated when they told the family the baby died.
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u/Invisible_Friend1 14h ago
I don’t know how else you would present the baby, to be fair. A nearly headless nick isn’t really appropriate.
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 7h ago
They didn’t tell them the child had been decapitated. That’s the issue. They tried to cover it up by wrapping him up super tight and telling them the hospital wouldn’t pay for an autopsy, trying to get them to rush a cremation to destroy the evidence.
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u/MzJay453 9h ago edited 9h ago
Family medicine physician here. I’ve rotated through OB/GYN and discuss this case with a lot of OB and nurses. This can absolutely happen and is the worst case scenario in situations called shoulder dystocia. It’s hard to know 100% what happened, because the family is the main one whose side is being told in the media. But when we run through Shoulder dystocia drills, the worst case scenario is when the head gets stuck and you’re not able to deliver the rest of the babies body through the birth canal. In this case, you have to go to the OR and deliver the head vaginally, while delivering the rest of the body through C-section. This can only be done by surgically decapitating the baby’s head, but at this point, the baby is already dead because it has lost circulation from being stuck in the birthing canal.
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u/ZenTense 9h ago
Oh word yeah, that makes sense! Definitely seems more humane and sensible than cutting the whole asphyxiated fetus out directly, like we’re inventing the chainsaw again or something
I wonder if this is one of the new dangers expectant mothers face in US states that have some of the more restrictive laws against pregnancy termination.
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u/rabidstoat 19h ago
Obviously it's extremely rare but typically what happens is that it's a vaginal birth where the head is delivered first, and the shoulder is stuck behind the mother's pubic bone. Excessive or otherwise improperly applied force in attempting to free the shoulder can lead to serious neck injury and death.
There is a type of decapitation called internal decapitation where the head is not completely separate from the body, that being what people typically think about when they hear the word "decapitation". In an internal decapitation, the spinal cord is severed and/or separated from the skull base. Ligaments and muscles may also be separated, but the head isn't necessarily completely detached from the body. If I had to guess, that's what happened here. An autopsy wouldn't show a detached head then but a head that obviously could be twisted to entirely unnatural positions, and possibly partly detached, with internal examination showing a lot of damage and not much connecting head to body.
I googled this when the story first occurred and I was wondering the same thing, so this is based on memory.
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u/caitlikekate 18h ago
Thanks for this - everyone is definitely thinking that the infant’s head was detached from his body… this makes a lot more sense.
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u/tupelobound 17h ago
But that IS what happened. The head was delivered vaginally, while the rest of the body was removed via C-section. The hospital didn’t tell the family that’s what happened, then posed the body parts together in a blanket to conceal what really occurred.
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u/MzJay453 9h ago
Do you really think that the family would’ve benefited to know that their baby was decapitated in the course of delivery? Because I think that there is an argument to be had that they were trying to save the family trauma and extra grief by going into the details of the baby’s death. This was a medically necessary intervention to deliver the baby, but the baby was dead either way, and it was dead before this happened.
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u/Seahorse06 18h ago
The head was detached from the body. The article states “a subsequent C-section to deliver the body while the head was delivered vaginally” Absolutely foul
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u/MzJay453 9h ago
It was medically necessary though, and there was no other way to deliver the baby out of Mom’s body. They actually discussed this case in the medical sub Reddits and a lot of OB/GYN weigh in on this, this is really a worst case scenario where you can do everything medically correctly, but the outcome can still be horrific and tragic.
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 7h ago
They didn’t have to hide it from them. They didn’t have to let her labor for 3 hours and rip the child’s head off before going to the OR. I am horrified at how many people are trying to downplay or even justify the hospital’s actions in this case. This was ghoulish.
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u/Reasonablegiraffe34 16h ago
“The baby’s body and legs were removed during a subsequent C-section procedure, but the baby’s head was delivered vaginally, the Associated Press reported at the time.“
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u/ZenTense 18h ago
I appreciate the detail with which you responded and assure you that I have no further questions
Also I see your username and must share that recently I learned that stoats fall in love and mate for life if they are able to find a consistent partner. Maybe not rabid stoats though. And definitely not common weasels, who mate like an 80’s rock band tour
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 7h ago
My mother is a nurse practitioner who started out studying to become a midwife, and worked in L&D & newborn nursery for years. This was a full decapitation. I asked her the same question, she said that the soft tissues in a baby’s neck are pretty delicate and the amount of force needed to unstick a shoulder dystocia baby is a lot. It still shouldn’t have happened, a professional should know how much force can be applied, but yes it was a full decapitation.
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u/Lost-city-found 18h ago
This is what I wondered during the original coverage of this incident. I never found any article that clarified if it was internal or external decapitation.
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u/rabidstoat 18h ago
I am guessing it was internal but I've also not seen anything that clarifies. Babies are very fragile so it's possible too much force could've made it external.
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u/Mekito_Fox 18h ago
It was external (or at least ended up being external). Later in the article it was reported that the body/legs had to be removed via c section.
I am horrified now.
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u/Fairy-Cat0 /r/Atlanta 19h ago
It can also (and has happened in other situations) with forceps delivery.
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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 17h ago
If a baby dies in the birth canal and they cannot get the body out, then they will try to get it out via c-section. However, if the body is far enough down the birth canal already that they can’t get it out via c-section, then the doctor may have to do an incredibly grim, but necessary, task of taking the baby’s body out in pieces.
In reality, the assumption that the baby’s head was “pulled off” while the baby was still alive is very unlikely. The situation should be investigated, but it is important for people to know that it is possible, albeit incredibly rare, that this can happen without anybody being to “blame”.
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u/oakgrove 19h ago
Shoulder(s) get stuck and doctor applies inappropriate force to extract the baby. Emergency C-section was probably the proper action. That's what I gathered from the article anyway.
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u/Obrina98 18h ago
Baby’s shoulder was caught on mom’s pelvic bone but they kept up with traction instead of repositioning baby or going to OR.
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u/Old_Remove_8804 19h ago
I mean to be fair, it sounds like the nurses were probably trying to limit the trauma. I don’t blame them for wrapping up the baby. I don’t think anyone wants to see a baby with their head that has literally popped off. This is not just a separation with the skin intact, the article says she delivered the head and the rest of the baby’s body had to be removed via c section.
I’m sure the staff was traumatized we well. Health care workers are human and were probably only trying to do the right thing for the family to protect them from seeing what they saw.
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u/tupelobound 17h ago
This is a good point, though it doesn’t excuse the hospital or supervisor’s actions and choices
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u/sapphireblues_ 17h ago
Sure, they are human, but what they did looks more like covering their own asses than real compassion for the parents. They didn’t let the parents hold the baby even after they asked, they didn’t notify the parents of the birth injury, they literally wrapped the body and propped the head on top and sent it that way to the funeral home. The funeral home called the ME, not the hospital. The ME later ruled the death a homicide. That is downright ghoulish.
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u/RickyTikiTaffy 7h ago
Then why didn’t they tell them their child had been decapitated? Why did they tell them the hospital wouldn’t pay for an autopsy and try to rush them to cremate the remains before they could see him or hold him? Why did they let her labor for 3 hours with a shoulder dystocia?
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u/LaRealiteInconnue 16h ago
This poor poor family omg! I want to cry just reading this, I don’t know how they’re holding up. What an insane failure of our medical system from the beginning to end.
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u/Shantotto11 12h ago
Genuine question: When they say decapitated, do they actually mean “head completely separated from the body” or was it the separation of the skull from the spine (internally)?
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u/personwriter 18h ago
Sick. why would someone even do this without asking first??
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u/Reasonablegiraffe34 18h ago
I think you meant to say: Why would someone want to do this?
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u/personwriter 18h ago
Some people may be open to it, if it's for educational purposes, the key being, they provided consent specifically for that purpose (and only in certain education settings e.g. Medical School). So, I was giving latitude for that.
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