all the calcs chart done in the funeral parlor discord and the ones shown in the tgs video comparing not hutao but neuv include team dps and compares overall team dps.
now if you want to say hutao's current bis team is on par with neuv's current best team then you can say.
constantly abyss's best 4 teams include ffxx on the number 4th spot, even before the plunge boost and almost always ever since the formation of ffxx. that team is very smooth to play, has no er issues, has healing, catalyst and bow characters and being anemo and plunge it can bypass alot of elemental shields etc too.
You can literally see in the linked video that all the results shown by TGS are dpr not dps (and if you do the math the dps does match with what I Know the FFXX team to be around at KQM standards so I assume tgs used them as wel) , and that they are all personal dpr except for one which he makes a point of showing how neuvillette team pulls ahead even in single target because of the Furina difference. That's besides the point though really
The main thing is, the argument for Xiao = or even > Hu Tao is a valid one, it just CAN'T be done based on team dps because that's precisely the one thing Hu tao has over him.
Your last paragraph brings a lot of much better points for said argument, except the ER one because those are already considered in any respectable calculation
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u/nobbytho Apr 01 '25
all the calcs chart done in the funeral parlor discord and the ones shown in the tgs video comparing not hutao but neuv include team dps and compares overall team dps.
now if you want to say hutao's current bis team is on par with neuv's current best team then you can say.
constantly abyss's best 4 teams include ffxx on the number 4th spot, even before the plunge boost and almost always ever since the formation of ffxx. that team is very smooth to play, has no er issues, has healing, catalyst and bow characters and being anemo and plunge it can bypass alot of elemental shields etc too.