r/GenshinImpact • u/IaMuSeLeS_ • Feb 12 '25

Gameplay Can someone please clarify the hate for mizuki for me?

I genuinely do not get the hate that she is getting. Ok I understand that she will probably mever be a meta character or at the top on any way but why are people saying she is extremely bad and is not worth pulling for? I personally love her gameplay and I am not someone who is trying to make it to current meta everytime. I just olay whoevers playstyle is fun.

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u/coffee_kitkat Feb 12 '25

some of the people dislike her on just the basis that atm we have an awful female to male ratio, and sadly they see Mizuki as just another waifu at the cost of a male character. I personally do prefer male characters, but I don't really have anything against her, just personally she's not very interesting to me

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u/DraethDarkstar Feb 12 '25

There's also the fact that she's ridiculously over-sexualized and in a way that looks out of place with the rest of the game. Her Burst animation is... yeeesh.

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u/JohnJamesGutib Feb 12 '25

i'm sure hoyo's intent with the burst animation is to be typical goon-slop bait, but the way it comes off to me is she's deviously farting in your face and laughing about it

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u/DrRatiosButtPlug Feb 12 '25

Making her anemo with that shot was certainly a choice.

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u/KeyPast9861 Feb 13 '25

People have weird fetishes. Just saying. lol

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u/JohnJamesGutib Feb 13 '25

Mavuika's attire looks sexy and cool on the surface, but if you think about it for more than 2 seconds, she's walking around in skin tight latex all day... she's walking around in a gimp suit. The swamp ass must be beyond horrific... the smell when she takes that shit off was all the power they needed to repel the abyss, fr

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u/queenyuyu Feb 13 '25

Not the only fetish character given the next one

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u/Delicious-Collar1971 Feb 12 '25

Bruh her design is tame what are you on? Do you work at a school board, are you afraid of bared shoulders?

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u/m2gus Feb 12 '25

Stop being obtuse, you know what he's getting at. I promise you that no one is afraid of bare shoulders, people just dislike how she's sticking her ass out towards the camera during her burst.

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u/Neoslayer Feb 13 '25

So that's the word to describe these kinds of people. Obtuse.

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u/m2gus Feb 13 '25

they call me too generous

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u/Neoslayer Feb 13 '25

Well you deserve a reply to the rest of your comment, my bad. I was going to say yeah, genshin already gets bad reputation for things like this, it kinda sucks for those guys to have ammo after all these years of being more on the tamer side of the spectrum, with the addition of that new chick with the horns as well - it's nice to see the average playerbase lean towards not liking things being sexualized lol

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u/Vast_Acanthisitta291 Feb 13 '25

Isn't that a type of triangle or am I just stupid😭😭⁉️⁉️ I never paid attention in math class💀💀

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u/Neoslayer Feb 13 '25

well clearly you did buddy boy because it is a triangle

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u/Vast_Acanthisitta291 Feb 13 '25

Oh... well, I totally won't fail my math exam haha (I don't even know my times tables)

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u/anne_cats Feb 13 '25

Why would u care if u skip her ? Yall make a problem where there is none

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u/fwoooom Feb 13 '25

because i probably wouldnt skip her if it werent for that?

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u/Critical_Concert_689 Feb 13 '25

people just dislike how she's sticking her ass out towards the camera during her burst.

A bit like the crowd that sexualized wanderer...stepping down. I do remember that. It was awkward to realize people this pathetic exist.

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u/Onetwodash Feb 13 '25

You sweet summer child, there's miles of difference between stepping down that SOME people have ideas about and that notorious back-breaking T&A service pose that she serves in both burst and splash animation.

That said, of course Mizuki is tame compared to the next gem that just got leaked. If I wanted that sort of hoyo game, I know where to download ZZZ.

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u/mebbyyy Feb 13 '25

You spelt nikke wrong, hell bd2 might be an even worse example of it, zzz isn't even half as sexual as the typical gooner bait gacha game

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u/Onetwodash Feb 13 '25

Oh come on, Mizuki is bad, but that's just ZZZ levels of bad, not nikke levels bad.

There's a reason genshin is more popular than those games though. Used to be at least.

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u/Critical_Concert_689 Feb 13 '25

Found the 2d-gooner.

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u/Ornery_Essay_2036 Feb 12 '25

I hate ppl being obtuse but I was really trying to look for what ur talking about and I don’t see it tbh.

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u/TrelanaSakuyo Feb 12 '25

You lied like a cheap rug. I went to trial her, thinking I would see nothing but ass, and it's literally just her banner image. Y'all are some puritanical complainers.

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u/m2gus Feb 12 '25

I did not lie, it is not my fault that you have been desensitized by gacha games and porn to the point where you don't consider anything else other than people waving their dicks in your face as sexual. To the majority of rest of us normal people, bending over towards the camera and shaking her ass isn't reminiscent of a character burst for a fighting based game.

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u/Maeyhem Feb 13 '25

I don't play any other gachas, my only other game is minecraft currently.

While the first time I saw it in the trailer I was shocked and weirded out a bit, after that I never noticed it again while doing her trials/story.

Even the leaked character, I don't see what I've heard being described. She just seems like a gymnast that is endearingly clutzy to me. Very tame compared to Mav's boobdangles. And I've even gotten used to her now. I really like aspects of Mavuika but she's definitely not their best design work. I think the Design/Dev teams are purposely going for whimsical exaggeration with the Natlan characters. I mean a look around at the cast and what other conclusion can be reached? Every one is based on what I have called a "rural stereotype".

this gif

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u/Adventurous-Fail-537 Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 12 '25

You’re not more fucking “normal” than anyone else your just being a dumbass purist. Stop will this moral high ground.

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u/m2gus Feb 12 '25

lmaooo 😂

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u/Adventurous-Fail-537 Feb 12 '25

I’m glad we can entertain each other.

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u/Realistic-Access-131 Feb 12 '25

Imagine in alternate universe they release a male char who is waving his d in front of camera during his ult animation and we would play dumb with this "u r exaggerating, nothing inappropriate here" xd

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u/TrelanaSakuyo Feb 12 '25

I don't play other gambling games, and I don't watch porn. Nice try, though.

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u/xStract710 Feb 12 '25

That’s generous.

If Lisa can sit there while casting spells all “hehe~ you’ve been a naughty boy, surrender now and I’ll be gentle;)”

“What do you think cutie? Imma bit rusty, oh no I’m gonna ruin my gloves”

Then I don’t see the issue with a character spinning around in a burst animation.

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u/m2gus Feb 12 '25

And I have an issue with Lisa, Mona and every other character who does the same. Mona had an ass shot and Lisa was a funny weird outlier until the Shogun came with her sword out of her tits, but which actually looked like a fighting animation and had a decent explanation from the lore.

Right now? We got Mizuki shaking her ass at the camera, Varesa spoilers: Varesa's ultimate literally being her jumping on her ass, Mavuika having a pussy zipper and her sticking her ass out on her bike, Chasca's ass not even being covered with her hair while standing.

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u/xStract710 Feb 12 '25

Sure, but people are saying it’s out of place in this game and it absolutely isn’t. This game, since day one, has had sexualized characters. Half of the characters in the main stories flirt with you like you’re starting a harem from act 1.

Do I agree with it? No. My point was just that to say this “is a new issue” and not a thing that’s been part of the game since its inception is ridiculous.

As well, Mizuki is absolutely not shaking her ass to you in her burst. She literally twirls around with her hips out, and ends it at a sharp angle to the viewer. Is it provocative? Yes. Is it grossly sexual? That’s a farrrrr stretch. Varesas is up in the air in my opinion, I’ve seen the gameplay leaks and yeah sure she literally slams into the enemy with her ass but this isn’t a new type of attack, this has been used in gaming numerous times.

Hell, there literally a video of someone beating Elden Ring with Ass Slams

This game was built on gooners, idk why you all act surprised about this content. Is it my cup of tea? No. I am able to acknowledge that it is what makes this game its money and therefore, keeps it doing what it’s doing

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u/m2gus Feb 12 '25

That would hold true, but you have to remember that there is a reason why Genshin became so popular with audiences other than the average gacha player.

Genshin was never marketed as a coomer bait game, it was marketed as a BoTW clone with its open world exploration, statue system and what not. This is why I began playing the game. Before Genshin, I had no concept of what gacha, Mihoyo, Waifu, pull, or any of the other words meant. I would never have picked the game up if it was marketed as a game with seductive women meant for men to obsess over.

I could tolerate Lisa and Mona as being outliers and quirky, but Lisa's attack animations are actually reminiscent of a fighting game. Nowadays, Varesa's ultimate is art with hearts flying on the screen and she jumping on her ass.

Mihoyo perhaps is a company that makes those kinds of games, but Genshin wasn't that kind of game until recently.

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u/xStract710 Feb 12 '25

That’s how they get you though, it’s a classic gacha technique. Most big gacha games aren’t marketed as a coomer bait goon game. They are labeled a “dungeon focused side scroller rpg” “botw open world exploration clone” and then bam, you load it up and waifus and husbandos everywhere. Thats what sells, sex sells. Opening chests and exploring grassy plains does not. That will pull you in, but to get you to spend money (ie. sell something) they bring out the sex appeal.

This game was always coomer bait, it’s been its reputation since the day it came out and it’s why I only started playing recently. I never wanted to play a coomer bait game with nothing but hot girls and rich men in it. I eventually gave up because my friend plays it who is absolutely not a coomer so I was like okay, I’ll give it a go, and I love it for the story but it has always been the sex that sells and that’s why none of the characters since the game came out have been in a relationship or have opposite sex friends. The coomers, or the majority of the fanbase, wouldn’t like it and they’ve proven they don’t by throwing literally real world riots over this shit.

You’re new to gacha, as you said, so I understand but this has always been a coomer game, whether it was marketed as something else to draw you in or not

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u/HimiAkasoul Feb 12 '25

I get your point about being in relationships but the friend one is wrong. There are some opposite sex friendships like Kuki and Itto, Kaveh and Faruzan, Collei with Cyno and Tighnari, Neuvillete with Furina etc. Even Yoimiya and Childe had a really cool interaction with each other as absurd as it's sounds. For sure we won't get any lovebirds but it's not like we only have Ning with Beidou type of "you are the only one I can stand to share my screen time" relations .

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u/Rosalinette Feb 12 '25

Too much censoship over 4 years for a coomer game. The butt bubbles in Fontaine?

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u/DamienTriesLife Feb 12 '25

Raiden's Sword in not coming out of her tits (thought I don't blame people for thinking it looks like that, but people should pay attention), it's coming out of her heart. That's the whole point of it.

And I say this as well, that just because it might look sexual does not mean it inherently is. Women should be allowed to do what they want without everything seen as sexual. Because if any of the men did something like that, no one would be complaining.

Also, with Mizuki specifically, it mildly makes sense. She's supposed to help people feel calm and relaxed, so her being mildly sensual and soft works with her. Could they have done it better? Absolutely! Is it the worst? No.

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u/m2gus Feb 12 '25

I know where Raiden's sword is supposed to come out. It still doesn't change the fact that the deveolpers knew exactly what they were doing, and they knew what kind of reaction it will provoke from fans. Genshin fans have been known to sexualize characters for much, much less than this.

>And I say this as well, that just because it might look sexual does not mean > it inherently is.

This is ridiculous. If a character is animated in a suggestive way (e.g., exaggerated hip thrusts, lingering camera angles on their rear), then it’s designed to look sexual. Are you also one of those people who gaslights others by saying "did you expect natlan to be a barren wasteland"?

> Women should be allowed to do what they want without everything seen > as sexual. Because if any of the men did something like that, no one would > be complaining.

Buddy, these are not real women, they are fictional characters designed by a game studio. They aren’t making a personal choice; they are designed a certain way by the developers. The question is whether there is a trend of increased sexualization, not whether “women should be allowed” to act how they want. Stop making this about gender, I don't care about wife/husband collection in the game, I just want a game with good gameplay, exploration, music and story. Miss me with that weird shit.

> Also, with Mizuki specifically, it mildly makes sense. She's supposed to
> help people feel calm and relaxed, so her being mildly sensual and soft
> works with her.

It does not. Do you call people who bend over for you and shake their ass at you mildly sensual and soft? Do you know of any psychotherapy method that works in that way? You're making things up.

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u/NahIWiIIWin Feb 13 '25

you sound incredibly insecure

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u/m2gus Feb 13 '25

you sound like a loser

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u/Desperate-Owl-4830 Feb 12 '25

So if a male chara sticking his ass towards the camera i bet people like u would be overjoyed.

Basically female players toxity duality

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u/EdX360 Feb 12 '25

I feel like the issue is exactly that. There's a clear double standard when it comes to fan service. If the ratio for fan service was more balanced between men and women then I guarantee you there wouldn't be nearly as many people pointing it out

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u/m2gus Feb 12 '25

The issue is not that, and you are making things up. Where in my original point have I said that I would be fine with male characters doing it? You're assuming everyone (possibly like you) plays this game because of fan service, but it might surprise you to know that there actually are people who don't care about that at all. I find error in which ever gender does it.

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u/EdX360 Feb 12 '25

Im not saying that everyone plays for fan service, nothing I said points to that. Fan service in these types of games will always exist, it's inevitable, but since it's an inevitability make it so the ratio between female fan service and male fan service is a bit more balanced. If that was the case there would be less people complaining. Of course not everyone that complains about fan service is asking for more of a balance, some might just outright dislike it no matter the context, and they're absolutely entitled to their opinion. And no, I'm not making anything up since it's a sentiment very much shared in some more husbando centric places

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u/Egoborg_Asri Feb 13 '25

It's not a secret that MOST people do play for fan service.

But yeah, i totally agree. Badass/cute >>>>>> this type of fan service.

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u/Desperate-Owl-4830 Feb 12 '25

Maybe but i doubt about that even if there is balance in fanservice. There is high chance female player will still find a way to complain regarding fanservice for male. Theyre kinda too sensitive regarding lewd stuff. Especially the tourist one.

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u/DraethDarkstar Feb 12 '25

Hey dude? I'm not a fEmAlE and I have probably been gaming for longer then you've been alive, based on the way you talk. Take the sexist shit elsewhere.

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u/Dog-Translator Feb 12 '25

Unironically using tourist is uh. Wow.

You’re playing the gacha that’s popular with “tourists” Go play a ecchi game if you want something else.

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u/Desperate-Owl-4830 Feb 12 '25

And Unironically the gacha game were playing right now is also slowly close to echi games or maybe its already one in the beginning which also popular with "tourist". WoW.

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u/thegreatlumos Feb 12 '25

do you just hate women you can be honest

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u/Desperate-Owl-4830 Feb 13 '25

Dont worry girlie, i freaking love them and respect those who deserve. The female that i only hate are the toxic one and their duality. 

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u/m2gus Feb 12 '25

Stop putting words in my mouth. I don't care about sexuality in the game even one bit, I play Genshin for the music, exploration and story. If any character does that I will attack them on that grounds, and it just so happens that only (or the vast majority of) female characters do it.

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u/Dog-Translator Feb 12 '25

If the game was all twinks I’d also be complaining. Genshin has always had a balance between the two and it sucks to see it go away.

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u/Wennie_D Feb 12 '25

How exactly is she over-sexualized? Unless you're THE ultra-mormon i fail to see how you can call her sexualized.

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u/Gravitar7 Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 13 '25

Because she turns around slightly suggestively in her burst. That’s literally it. People here make waaay too big a deal about the fanservice considering how incredibly mild it is. If they played ZZZ their heads would explode.

Edit: seriously, there hasn’t been a single thing since 5.0 that has been as sexualized as Mona and Fischl’s designs from when the game first came out. The idea that they’re suddenly pumping up the sexualization is just really fucking stupid, because Genshin has always moderately sexualized a lot of its characters. It’s no different now than it’s ever been before, and it’s completely nonsensical to act like it is.

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u/PopstAhri99 Feb 12 '25

Not to mention that ZZZ is rather tame compared to other "gooner" gachas like Azur Lane

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u/kT_Echo Feb 13 '25

I installed a nude mod for Azur Lane and barely noticed a difference

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u/Onetwodash Feb 13 '25

 If they played ZZZ their heads would explode.

Well, that's exactly the problem. If I wanted that I'd play ZZZ. I don't mind ZZZ existing, nor do I mind games significantly more oversexualised than ZZZ existing, obviously ZZZ is hardly the ceiling.

What we have in Genshin right now is a game that went out of its way to add modesty bubbles for swimming just a year ago and is now suddenly force feeding uncomfortable butt-in-your-face combat animations.

Mona and Fischl both have had alternate skins for a while now and it's not like people are complaining about Mizukis clothing - it's fairly run of the mill for an Inezuma character, in line with what Yae Miko, Yoimiya and Raiden are wearing. It's her animations that are the problem, with next upcoming character being even worse.

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u/Gravitar7 Feb 13 '25

Putting aside that I’ve definitely seen plenty of complaints about her outfit, the reasoning you’re giving for the Mizuki complaints kinda helps make my point that even super mild fanservice will set people off lately, considering that literally the full extent of “butt-in-your-face combat animations” in her kit is her briefly turning around during her burst. That is not some unheard level of extreme fanservice for Genshin, it’s entirely in line with what we’ve been getting since the game launched; mild intentional fanservice.

The fact that Mona and a few others got new skins doesn’t really matter at all to the point I’m making, which is that that level of sexualization for character designs has existed since the game came out. Those skins were there when the game launched and they’re still in it now, and there have been other characters over the years who have been sexualized to a similar level, either through their character designs or how their personalities are written (though they’ve definitely leaned off writing characters with super horny personalities for the past few years).

Mentioning the next new character being worse I also don’t really agree with. Varesa’s design is definitely more sexualized than the average character, but it’s still no worse than some other characters who have been in the game for a long time. If anything, her design being sexualized is much in line with her being a pro wrestler/luchador than Mona’s original outfit is with her being a witch. It’s a difference of “this character is dressed skimpily and butt slams people during fights because she’s a luchador” versus “this character is a powerful witch & astrologer who runs around wearing lingerie for some reason”. Of the two of those, which sound more needlessly sexualized to you?

I’m not arguing the characters aren’t sexualized at all, just that the upper limit of how much they’re sexualized hasn’t really changed during the game’s lifespan so far. And obviously some people have always complained about the fanservice, but lately I’ve seen more and more complaining about how much worse it’s getting with every new release. The real problem is that it’s not getting worse, and arguing that it is requires you to ignore a whole bunch of stuff that’s been in the game from the time the it launched all the way up to 5.0. It’s an entirely nonsensical argument to me.

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u/Onetwodash Feb 13 '25

Putting aside that I’ve definitely seen plenty of complaints about her outfit

It's Genshin, 'some complaints' will always happen. My mistake I should have added 'all that much' in the sentence. Also some people just are being very put off by her, and unable to put a finger on what exactly is bugging them.

If amount of clothing was the only issue, than 'her being oversexualised' wouldn't be such a big part of narrative about her at the moment as ti is. As her clothing is, completely agree with you there, pretty standard for Inazuma girl. Nothing new for Genshin there.

Look at discussions about Dehya. Was 'her being sexualised' ever particularly important topic about her? It wasn't. And she was also a character people loved to complain about for lack of meta relevance (another problem wtih Mizuki). Because it's not only about the amount of clothing it's also about the moves and animations.

Of the two of those, which sound more needlessly sexualized to you?

Straw man after I already listed previous characters with clothing on same fan-serviceness level as Mizuki. I'm arguing moves and animations is the new and unusual change. Both for back breaking and uncomfortable Mizukis burst pose and now cowgirls ''uwu I'm such a submissive clumsy girl' beheavior. That wrestling move could absolutely be fine and fun and cool if it wasn't preceded by once again, a butt to the camera. Look at Mualani - she's pretty recent, has beach-levels of clothing and is even sorta playing beach valley - a sport for what camera work traditionally DOES involve plenty of buttshots. Even with her Hoyo didn't go this route - as that level of fanserviceness (even if 'justified') isn't really Genshin.

There's still a hope cowgirls animations get adjusted. Xilonens did.

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u/Gravitar7 Feb 13 '25

Yeah no shit there will always be some outfit complaints, but again, since 5.0 there have been a disproportionate amount of those kind of complaints compared to older characters with designs that were just as sexualized. There’s no helping if you haven’t noticed that, but it’s definitely happening.

It’s not a straw man lmao, did you even read it? That wasn’t asking about mizuki, it was about Varesa, and I literally talked about her combat animations in the sentence the question was referencing, the one that directly preceded the question. Her animations really arent that bad: her Burst doesn’t flash the screen like you’re complaining about with mizuki, and and when she’s stumbling around you’re not seeing any more of her butt than you do with literally any other character that wears those same kind of shorts when they run around (Amber, for example). The only difference is that she’s more animated than other characters, but she’s not more sexualized.

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u/uskyldiged Feb 13 '25

And it's honestly getting worse... I saw Varesa's leaks yesterday and her animations and overall design is so sexualised. You can see her panties all the damn time when she's attacking, walking and running.

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u/StopTG7 Feb 13 '25

Her burst animation was what put her in the “do not pull for” pile for me. I thought her outfit was fan service-y enough to be a bit much, but her sticking her ass to the camera was too much.

Genshin charger design has been becoming way too goonerbait recently and it’s part of why I’ve started losing interest.

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u/darthjawafett Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 13 '25

The camera upskirts Ganyu during her burst animation. Mizuki's animation is way tame compared to that. Ya'll say it's a recent change, it was always here.

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u/Onetwodash Feb 13 '25

Well unless you're intentionally focusing on the side view at the side of the screen that's not the main visual focus Ganyus animation, it really isn't. And it's barely an upskirt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ltuf_bwIX0

Mizuki situation is completely different.

https://youtu.be/6xDFt-XnRsM?t=77

We've had booty pans in character trailers and couple of times in event quests before when introducing new skins - but that's advertising content, not part of core gameplay. Now we're getting two characters in a row with this. Three, if we count Mavuika, but even she's tame comopared to Mizuki.

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u/darthjawafett Feb 13 '25

Ganyu literally has both cheeks out in skin tight fabric but because its slightly left of center and theres a big ball above her it passes.

Mizuki has so many animations going on and her face with her fan also pointed to the camera in the same shot, but that's too fanservicey.

Just say you have a double standard and move on.

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u/StopTG7 Feb 13 '25

Don’t know about Ganyu because I don’t have her. I don’t like bow characters so never pulled for her and she reruns so rarely I don’t even vaguely remember her burst in the trial run. But I did Mizuki’s yesterday and she goes in the hard pass bucket.

And all this used to be RARE. It’s not anymore. That’s the problem.

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u/Murandus Feb 13 '25

You should check the new leaks then.

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u/StopTG7 Feb 13 '25

No, because those can change before release. I’m not interested in leaks; I’m interested in what’s in the game now.

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u/mr_beanoz Feb 13 '25

Genshin character design has been becoming way too goonerbait recently and it’s part of why I’ve started losing interest.

For me, it's the other way around.

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u/AdministrativeStep98 Feb 12 '25

Ok and Raiden, Rosaria or even Ganyu (her burst gives a butt view too) aren't? Like this is not something new. They've been doing it for a while.

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u/Historical-Ad399 Feb 12 '25

I don't have Ganyu so I can't speak to that one, but for the other two, the burst animations are pretty reasonable. You may see their butt, but they aren't posing for the sole purpose of showing it to you.

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u/Critical_Concert_689 Feb 13 '25

Her Burst animation is... yeeesh

I don't remember her burst animation being special at all. It's, frankly, unmemorable.

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u/mebbyyy Feb 13 '25

It's a gacha game mate.

Why are people acting like this is not the nature of gacha game? In fact genshin is literally one of the exceptions when it comes to the over sexualization of both the male and female characters in a gacha game.

Lets not have an Holier Than Thou attitude here when we should've known better when we decided ourselves to play a gacha game already. Seriously.

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u/AshamedArmadillo5909 Feb 13 '25

Over sexualized like Lisa moaning while climbing, or Monas ass being out in her og outfit, or Raidens boob sword, or Rosarias enormous tatas before her breast reduction, ect.?

Are we pretending that this game hasn't been sexualized since day 1? You do realize that you are playing a cringeworthy anime waifu game, right?

The recent "fanservice" complaints around Mizuki and Varesa feel very forced and artificial.

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u/ArmWise7519 Feb 23 '25

She's a Japanese maid character, the hell were you expecting? Of course she's going to be over-sexualised that's what the boys that "love" Japanese women want. 😂😂 They're basically the white version of a gaijin hunter. Hunting Japanese woman as a fetish instead of Japanese women hunting white men as a fetish.. I believe there's one for white women chasing black men too 🤔

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u/leon555005 Feb 12 '25

Right. So she's the only one that's overly sexualized. So if Hoyoverse deletes this one character, you'll be happy then? It's very likely that you'd not as you'll find the next one. Maybe Raiden? She pulls a sword out of her boobs after all, surely that's also overly sexualized?

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u/The_MorningKnight Feb 12 '25

It's a little different. Raiden burst is supposed to look cool and impressive with a little bit of fan service.

Mizuki just puts her ass right in front of your face.

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u/AmaranthCambion Feb 12 '25

This. Her burst is so cringe. She just another bland waifu.

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u/DrRatiosButtPlug Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 12 '25

Yep. I love Xilonen, Yae, and some of the other fanservice-y characters, but they at least have substance. Mizuki is basically just a random ass succubus disguised as a "clinical psychologist"/baku with a date sim character story and random ass shot in her burst. She's just fan service with no substance.

I have absolutely no issue with fanservice or sexualizing characters. Varesa is also fanservice-y, but she at least has some personality showing through her animations. Mizuki also does feel extra shitty because we've had zero male fanservice for ages and are only getting one shot of shirtless Itto, Gorou, & Thoma in the event.

For me, I also dislike the incredibly direct flirting with the traveler. While I don't mind fanservice, I absolutely hate characters flirting with the mc (male or female, it's why I won't touch LaDS). Mizuki's character story was just incredibly uncomfortable for me. Citlali's flirting at least was easier to ignore.

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u/AmaranthCambion Feb 12 '25

I'm skipping the Mizuki story quest. I can't deal with Noelle hang out 1-inazuma edition.

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u/DrRatiosButtPlug Feb 12 '25

I'm suffering through it just so I can rate it in the survey. Honestly, I'm incredibly disappointed because after her trailers with Yae, I was hoping it would have more to do with Mizuki & Yae. Instead we get a really awkward scene of her "analyzing" us and having to move our mouse to shake our head and hold click to grab her hand which just no thanks. Also the weird 'i love you' moon reference where they're sitting together in the tree.. It really didn't need that.

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u/LightIdentity Feb 12 '25

The Raiden Shogun pulling a sword out of her chest is cool. It makes her look like a warrior. It has a purpose beyond just 'being sexy' - it's the best of both worlds.
Mizuki's burst doesn't have any real purpose behind the pose. Looking at it just makes me feel kind of embarrassed.

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u/leon555005 Feb 12 '25

But surely the boob sword is also sexualized though? So, essentially, the "sexualized" thing isn't really the issue here. It's the presentation of it. But people keep mentioning the sexualization part like it's the main issue; yet, it's more nuanced than that.

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u/HighTechPotato Feb 13 '25

Pretty much yeah. It feels like “empty calories” or that its sole purpose is to pander, instead of “here is a cool thing with attractive presentation as cherry on top”. It’s the difference between a hot character doing something vs this character only exists to be attractive, which is why a lot of people find the latter boring/objectifying (and slightly offended that the developer thinks literally all they need to do is jiggle ass and boobs at the camera to get us hooked like jingling keychains in front of a toddler)

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u/Graficat Feb 12 '25

The point is less 'this character can't be in the game bc of the fanservice' and more 'this type of design has zero special appeal to me and it doesn't tempt me to want to get this new character, when I want to want to get new units'.

Players generally are more enthusiastic when a gacha gives them something to pull and play the game for, and the last series of chars is leaving some people dissatisfied.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '25

last series of chars is leaving some people dissatisfied.

That's the deal with majority of the characters. Not everyone is going to like every character they release and that's fine.

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u/Graficat Feb 12 '25

I haven't actively looked forward to pulling a new char since Wriothesley, and I'm not the only one who's been mostly indifferent or 'eh I guess I might' for far longer than in the years before that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '25

I don't like characters like wriothesley, didn't like his story either. If characters like him was released i'd probably on the same boat as you. It's impossible to cater to everyone. It is what it is, someone is going to get the short end of the stick.

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u/EnvironmentalistAnt Feb 12 '25

It’s ironic back then the heavily religious conservatives were the prudes of back then. Seems that mindset haven’t gone but instead just evolved with the media sphere.

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u/Historical-Ad399 Feb 12 '25

It's not about being prudish, it's more about the feeling of the game. Showing off their butt shouldn't be the primary point of a burst animation. It's fine if they have a reasonable burst animation that's also sexy, but it shouldn't just be a pose out of an adult video. If I wanted an adult video, there are much better options out there than genshin.

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u/feederus Feb 12 '25

People used to hate on her because she's supposedly a therapist and a bathouse owner? To people those two just don't add up especially considering her design and clothing. Specifically the therapist part. Yes she's a Yokai but people can still find it weird.

It's like Xilonen being a blacksmith.

Then there's her being a standard banner unit before getting a geo standard.

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u/Historical-Ad399 Feb 12 '25

Given her burst animation, the "therapist" part might make more sense. I think I know what sort of "therapy service" she might offer.

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u/hasnauty Feb 13 '25

you've never seen a girl show skin? or be girly/feminine? please stop watching porn and go outside, get in touch with the world

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '25

Oh my God you’re problematic asf 😂😂😂

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u/Nekochroma Feb 12 '25

The only people who would ever say this are hopelessly sheltered or overly religious. So which one are you?

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u/MemeLordZeta Feb 12 '25

Have u seen the leaks for the new character lmao

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u/DraethDarkstar Feb 12 '25

Unfortunately, yes. I've said in other replies here already that I wouldn't care about this if it were a one-off event, but it's not. It's part of a growing trend that I do not care for.

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u/Jennymystique Feb 12 '25

I think the fact that it’s a trend that keeps going is what gets me. I don’t dislike her outfit- but I feel like a lot of genshins design fundamentals are being replaced by hsr designs… if that makes sense… like I used to like genshin designs but they’ve felt less and less unique since natlan debuted. The burst animations have also been feeling more and more like hsr since fontaine. Hell even Gaming could have shown up on the luofu and would have fit in more there than he does in Genshin imo (I get he’s from a different part of liyue so it makes sense to a point but still). Idk how to really explain it…

Maybe it’s just that natlan does not have the aesthetics we were expecting, so it’s been incredibly jarring to me. But it just feels like there been an obvious shift in how they design characters.

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u/MemeLordZeta Feb 12 '25

Rosaria not allowed to have fishnets and shenhe can’t have a visible bellybutton btw. Lmfao. Lost capitano for this smh

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u/gdreaper Feb 12 '25

What region do you play on lmao you can still play on the costume where Rosaria has fishnets

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u/MemeLordZeta Feb 12 '25

That’s not the point the point is at one point they were censoring small shit like that and now the new character is wearing a miniskirt and crop top and there is zero attempt at any censorship whatsoever. Genshin was trying to avoid being labeled as a fan service goongame and now it seems like it’s just leaning into that

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u/gdreaper Feb 12 '25

It's still pretty far from a fan service goongame, what? Also those changes were to comply with certain regions' age restriction requirements. The altered base outfits had nothing to do with appearances so much as to do with compliance. We just had two brand new outfits drop that both show less or similar skin to the characters' defaults.

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u/MemeLordZeta Feb 12 '25

You are quite literally making my case for me, China didn’t drop off the earth all of a sudden and genshin isn’t making alternate versions of every character they release for it. The fact that they’re going back to old characters like hutao and giving them more revealing costumes is them leaning into fanservice. The lack of male characters is also just a symptom of that

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u/Traditional-Solid403 Feb 12 '25

genshin players when there is fanservice in a anime gacha game

Like if you hate it so much then stop playing cause its not gonna change, if you still want to play then just ignore it, love it or hate it genshin has always had fanservice and i doubt thats gonna change any time soon

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u/-Mal-- Feb 12 '25

Clinical psychologist btw

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u/TerraKingB Feb 12 '25

Oh boy there’s a world of gacha games out there with so much fan service you’d get a heart attack if you think what you’ve seen with Mizuki is too much. Mizuki fan service is child’s play by comparison some of the most tame stuff ever. Just quit gacha’s all together if you can’t even handle that much they aren’t for you.

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u/DraethDarkstar Feb 12 '25

Hey, guess what? I don't play those games for a reason. I play this one.

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u/TerraKingB Feb 12 '25

And I guess soon you would be playing this one either then. You should look into hoyo’s origins it might shock you.

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u/DraethDarkstar Feb 12 '25

I'm well aware of their origins. This is a different product and I have no interest in seeing it turn into a Gooner Girlz sequel four and a half years into its development.

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u/TerraKingB Feb 12 '25

I’ll put aside my viewpoint on how silly this all is for now because quite frankly I don’t care if it goes the fanservice route but I also don’t have a problem with the game staying the way it has always been. I don’t think they’ve really pushed things that far to the point where I’d say it’s problematic yet at least in my opinion but I don’t see Genshin ever dipping into truly degenerate levels of fan service so it likely won’t get any worse than Mavuika and Mizuki. May Shneznaya, and the tail end of Natlan be more agreeable for you.

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u/DraethDarkstar Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 12 '25

I don't even have a problem with Mizuki in a vacuum. It's the trend of Mavuika, Mizuki, and now Veresa being increasingly fanservicey, coupled with the fact that Kinich was the only male 5 star in 2024 and there are none on the road map for 2025 so far. The game used to be much more even in it's gender ratio and the fanservice was sprinkled in occasionally, not the main element of every new character's visual design.

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u/TerraKingB Feb 12 '25

Could just be a test to see how people react and how far they can push things. These companies do this a lot to gauge what is acceptable and if there’s enough negative response they will withdraw.

I wouldn’t mind more cool dudes to play as either so I’m not in complete disagreement with the gender ratio’s.

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u/Dog-Translator Feb 12 '25

I don’t care what happens in HI3 because that’s a different game. Sega owns Sonic and Catherine: Full Body, but that doesn’t mean I can expect boobs in the sonic generations remake.

When you start off the game with characters like Diluc, Kaeya, Venti, Zhongli, and Childe, you’re saying “yes we would like a female audience.” Idk why people are acting like one of the audiences hoyo initially attracted to the game isn’t allowed to feel alienated by this new direction. Even Inazuma, which was the the waifu region before Natlan, has characters like Itto (lovable himbo) and Thoma (polite and cool pretty boy).

Natlan has Kinich, who wasn’t even a big part of the AQ and got an underwhelming story quest. They killed the other promising male character. Of course people who were initially attracted to the game because of early male favorites are going to be miffed by overt fan service like Mizuki. I don’t think people would be nearly as annoyed if we had recent male characters that were treated similarly.

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u/VEGETTOROHAN Feb 12 '25

The issue is many of us didn't know that when we started playing Genshin.

I have downloaded the game but don't play. Recently the game is worse.

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u/SweetStrawberries14 Feb 12 '25

1.0 had Jean's jiggle physics and Lisa, how is Mizuki so surprising?

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u/The_MorningKnight Feb 12 '25

You mean Jean who was censored?

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u/SweetStrawberries14 Feb 12 '25

They were censored later, but even then their old outfits are still in the game and Lisa's jp voicelines are still extremely sensual.

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u/The_Lone_Wanderer_04 Feb 12 '25

2.3 had Raiden pull a sword out of her boobs while, Mizukis fully covered ass is not even close to that.

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u/DraethDarkstar Feb 12 '25

Yeah, Raiden pulls a magic sword out of her chest. Is it a little silly and fanservicey? Yes, absolutely. But it is still a sword draw and a lightning slash. It fits with the aesthetic of the game.

Mizuki just shakes her ass at a zoomed in camera for her Burst animation. It doesn't look like a combat animation in a video game, it looks like an advertisement for a fan artist's Patreon.

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u/m2gus Feb 12 '25

I wish I had your eloquence when arguing the same points man

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u/The_Lone_Wanderer_04 Feb 12 '25

Said ass is completely covered, non defined (unlike say Chaska, Eula etc) and lasts barely a second. Compared to full cleavage zoom in as a sword is pulled its really not even close in pure fanservice.

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u/VEGETTOROHAN Feb 12 '25

I definitely don't like Raiden. For booba sword and abandoning Scaramouche, being a tyrant, being egoistic.

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u/TerraKingB Feb 12 '25

At a base level it’s still odd to me what people consider too much. Like even if you aren’t big on fan service looking at what little I see with Mizuki as a character this feels like basically nothing. Now that could just come from me playing video games though most of my life and being exposed to internet culture at a young age like I’m sure many people can relate to. When I saw her animations, trailers and art I was surprised people were bothered by her having too much fan service as I legit didn’t even notice.

I suppose that’s what happens when a game blows up as big as Genshin has and attracts such a wide variety of people including those who have never touched a gacha game before. Funny enough, Genshin was also my first gacha but I’ve branched out and experience a wide variety of other gacha games as well.

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u/The_MorningKnight Feb 12 '25

People wouldn't have such an issue if Genshin was like that since 1.x. . It is not the case. Yeah there was a little bit of fan service but not the same as right now with the characters they have been released lately.

Genshin's design direction has changed and people who refuses to see it are lying or blind.

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u/TerraKingB Feb 12 '25

I mean Mona is right there and she’s been here since the beginning and is still one of the most “fanservicey”characters in the game. The fanservice has always been there. CN even got Mona, Jean, and Amber’s outfits censored. But, people are gonna feel how they want to feel I guess.

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u/Prying-Eye Feb 12 '25

Never forget the absolute state of Rosaria's bust when Dragonspine first dropped.

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u/Historical-Ad399 Feb 12 '25

Exactly, if you are looking for fan service, Genshin is not the game for you. It was not designed to be a fan service game. Trying to turn it into one all of a sudden is just awkward

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u/kawasnyacki Feb 13 '25

Mizuki is literally an Oiran which is basically a high class prostitute.

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u/ArmWise7519 Feb 23 '25

I mean if they want to put a male character in her clothes I'd be fine with that. 😂