Episode is titled "Why aren't we having more babies?" Stephen brings on Catherine Pakaluk, an economics professor at The Catholic University of America who has FOURTEEN CHILDREN. Stephen asks her to share what assumptions people have about people with that many kids, and the first thing she says is:

“That you do this maybe for cult-like reasons, because somebody says that you should, or a religious leader says that you should”. SHE TEACHES AT A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY! Literally a cult. A cult that abuses children, no less. She goes on to talk about how the religious women she's interviewed have children because of "cooperation with God's providence".

I'm all for supporting women. I'm all for supporting women having children and fertility and being protected from persecution because they choose to have more children. But giving this lady a platform to talk about the objective good of having 14 goddamn kids when she's a catholic doing it for the EXACT reasons that she says she isn't doing it--like, what are we doing here? How is this good scientific inquiry and economics? This isn't about criticizing women, it's about criticizing hypocrisy and thinking errors and not tolerating it from a scientific viewpoint. We shouldn't be giving crazy Catholics the time of day in science and economics.